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Đề tài: Nhờ dịch dùm , cảm thấy hơi tối nghĩa

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    Mặc định Nhờ dịch dùm , cảm thấy hơi tối nghĩa

    Nhờ dịch dùm các ḍng bôi đen . Cảm ơn rất nhiều

    Ian Wong, an inference scientist at Square. (
    That’s where he was in November 2012 when he came to the class. He now works at Prismatic.)
    Ḍng bôi đen có vẻ hơi tối nghĩa .
    Chú thích : Square là tên một công ty
    As Tarde saw it, the physical sciences observe from a distance: they typically model or incorporate models that talk about an aggregate in some way — for example, a biologist might talk about the function of the aggregate of our cells. What Tarde pointed out was that this is a deficiency; it’s basically brought on by a lack of information. According to Tarde, we should instead be tracking every cell.

    But wait, are we not missing the forest for the trees when we do this? In other words, if we focus on the microlevel, we might miss the larger cultural significance of social interaction. Bruno Latour, a contemporary French sociologist, weighs in with his take on Tarde in Tarde’s Idea of Quantification [2]:

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    anyone translate this please! i tried to understand those bold words but failed.

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    they typically model or incorporate models that talk about an aggregate in some way
    An aggregate: something formed by adding together several amounts or things
    What Tarde pointed out was that this is a deficiency
    Deficiency: a state of not having, or not having enough, of something that is needed
    As I see it, the paragraph tries to tell us that physical sciences usually consider things as a whole, superficially. Tarde pointed out that their way of thinking is wrong as it lacks information.
    But wait, are we not missing the forest for the trees when we do this
    This could be taken from a different paragraph so I'm not sure of the idea? It may be a metaphor which I think of like this:
    We do sth bad to the forests for the good of trees but ignored the relationship between forests and trees.
    weighs in with his take on
    Means that Latour is criticising Tarde's Idea because Tarde criticizes physical sciences for aggregate and supporting microlevel (tracking every cell)

    That's my idea, I'd appreciate it if someone could correct me, thanks

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    Trích Nguyên văn bởi tietthainguyet Xem bài viết
    Nhờ dịch dùm các ḍng bôi đen . Cảm ơn rất nhiều

    Ian Wong, an inference scientist at Square. (That’s where he was in November 2012 when he came to the class. He now works at Prismatic.)
    Ḍng bôi đen có vẻ hơi tối nghĩa .
    Chú thích : Square là tên một công tyAs Tarde saw it, the physical sciences observe from a distance: they typically model or incorporate models that talk about an aggregate in some way — for example, a biologist might talk about the function of the aggregate of our cells. What Tarde pointed out was that this is a deficiency; it’s basically brought on by a lack of information. According to Tarde, we should instead be tracking every cell.

    But wait, are we not missing the forest for the trees when we do this? In other words, if we focus on the microlevel, we might miss the larger cultural significance of social interaction. Bruno Latour, a contemporary French sociologist, weighs in with his take on Tarde in Tarde’s Idea of Quantification [2]:
    Trích Nguyên văn bởi TajSaker Xem bài viết
    they typically model or incorporate models that talk about an aggregate in some way
    An aggregate: something formed by adding together several amounts or things
    What Tarde pointed out was that this is a deficiency
    Deficiency: a state of not having, or not having enough, of something that is needed
    As I see it, the paragraph tries to tell us that physical sciences usually consider things as a whole, superficially. Tarde pointed out that their way of thinking is wrong as it lacks information.
    But wait, are we not missing the forest for the trees when we do this
    This could be taken from a different paragraph so I'm not sure of the idea? It may be a metaphor which I think of like this:
    We do sth bad to the forests for the good of trees but ignored the relationship between forests and trees.
    weighs in with his take on
    Means that Latour is criticising Tarde's Idea because Tarde criticizes physical sciences for aggregate and supporting microlevel (tracking every cell)

    That's my idea, I'd appreciate it if someone could correct me, thanks
    English is a contextual language, and since the original poster didn't provide the full context for his/her paragraphs, it is not easy for anyone to answer his/her questions clearly. Member TajSaker did a commendable job in tackling this rather ambiguous post.

    Here's some background information about the original paragraphs in question.

    They are excerpts of "Chapter 9 Data Visualization and Fraud Detection" from the book entitled "Doing Data Science: Straight Talk from the Frontline" and written by Rachel Schutt, Cathy O'Neil.

    Here is the context of some of those excerpts:

    There are two contributors for this chapter, Mark Hansen, a professor at Columbia University, and Ian Wong, an inference scientist at Square. (That's where he was in November 2012 when he came to the class. He now works at Prismatic.) ...

    From this context, "when he came to the class" simply refers to when Ian Wong either taught or lectured in a class on "Data Visualization" or Inferential Statistics or whatever class that was referred earlier in the book, which I don't know as I could only read what is available on line.

    The remaining excerpts referred in the first post came from the following section in Chapter 9

    Gabriel Tarde

    Mark started by telling us a bit about Gabriel Tarde, who was a sociologist who believed that the social sciences had the capacity to produce vastly more data than the physical sciences.

    As Tarde saw it, the physical sciences observe from a distance: they typically model or incorporate models that talk about an aggregate in some way- for example, a biologist might talk about the function of the aggregate in our cells. What Tarde pointed out was that this is a deficiency; it’s basically brought on by a lack of information. According to Tarde, we should instead be tracking very cell.

    In the social realm we can do the analog of this, if we replace cells with people. We can collect a huge amount of information about individuals, especially if they offer it up themselves through Facebook.

    But wait, are we not missing the forest for the trees when we do this? In other words, if we focus on the micro level, we might miss the larger cultural significance of social interaction. Bruno Latour, a contemporary French sociologist, weighs in with his take on Tarde in Tarde’s Idea of Quantification:

    But the whole is now nothing more than a provisional visualization which can be modified and reversed at will by moving back to the individual components and then looking for yet other tools to regroup the same elements into alternative assemblages.

    As Tarde saw it, the physical sciences observe from a distance: they typically model or incorporate models that talk about an aggregate in some way- for example, a biologist might talk about the function of the aggregate in our cells.

    Member TajSaker got the right interpretation. What this sentence basically says is that the physical sciences see things from a distance. Consequently, they often see things in a whole picture. Therefore, when they describe how things work, they often use a model or put in models that talk about things as a whole (an aggregate) in some manner.

    What Tarde pointed out was that this is a deficiency; it’s basically brought on by a lack of information. According to Tarde, we should instead be tracking very cell.

    What this sentence basically says was that the sociologist Tarde didn't agree with this approach. He thought that this view point was deficient (not accurate or inadequate in this context) because according to Tarde, we should dig deeper and look more at the micro level to follow the cells that make up the whole.

    But wait, are we not missing the forest for the trees when we do this? In other words, if we focus on the micro level, we might miss the larger cultural significance of social interaction.

    This short paragraph basically explains the context of the bold sentence. The critics of Tarde's viewpoint say that we can't focus too much at the micro level because we will miss the bigger picture of social interaction. This is analogous to the point of concentrating too much on invidual trees and missing the bigger picture of how the forest is formed from the trees.

    Bruno Latour, a contemporary French sociologist, weighs in with his take on Tarde in Tarde’s Idea of Quantification:

    "Take" in this context is a noun, and it simply means "an opinion". Here's an official definition of "take" from the OALD:

    take on something (informal)

    the particular opinion or idea that somebody has about something

    What's his take on the plan?

    a new take on the Romeo and Juliet story (= a way of presenting it)

    Bruno Latour, a contemporary French sociologist, weighs in with his take on Tarde in Tarde’s Idea of Quantification => Bruno Latour who lives at the same time as Tarde, joins in the discussion with his opinion (different) on Tarde's idea as expressed in "Tarde's Idea of Quantification" book.

    weigh in with his take => join in the discussion with his own opinion

    weigh in (with something)



    (informal) to join in a discussion, an argument, an activity, etc. by saying something important, persuading somebody, or doing something to help

    We all weighed in with our suggestions.

    Finally the government weighed in with financial aid.


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