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Alo_Picasso
07-04-2007, 03:42 AM
PASSIVE VOICE

I/Passive voice (P.V): is usually to emphasize the result, the fact or the object of an action ,not the agent.

*P.V is used only with Transitive Verb
*P.V is used more commonly in written language , especially in the impersonal style of textbooks or report ( to describe an industrial and scientific process, to describe historical and social process or in official rules and procedures)

Ex :
The ore is usually dug out of the ground.
Applications should be made in writing.

II/Form

General form :
S+Vt+O ( Vt= transitive verb)

-->PV:S(o) + be + P(2)+ (by O)

NOTE:

*to be in passive sentence is always in the same forms and tenses & main verbs in the active sentence.

In P.V:

*To verb is changed into to be P(2)

*Verb is changed into be P(2)

*V-ing is changed into Being P(2)

*Modal verbs work in the same way :
S+ modal verb + Vt+ O

->P.V : S(o)+modal verb + be+P(2) + (by S)

Ex :
The windows in being painted .
The machine can be taken apart.


BASIC USES of passive voice

I/Agent and instrument:

*Agent : A person who does the action in the Passive sentence is called the agent
*Instrument : Things which cause something to happen in a passive sentence is called an instrument .

Ex:
I was hit by a branch ( The branch itself hit me)
Iwas hit with a branch ( Some one use a branch to hit me ).

II/Transitive and intrasitive verbs :

1/Transitive verbs are the verbs with object.

There are 3 kinds of Vt( verb transitive )

---Memo-trasitive verbB] : verb with 1 object (read, write,...)
---[B]Di-transitive verb :verb with 2 objects(give, bring,pay,hand,show...)
---Complex transitive verb

Ex:
I read the newspapers yesterday.
I gave her a present.

--All Vt.s can be made passive except :become, have, get, suit, fit, resemble.

2/Intrasitive verbs are verbs with no object :

Ex:
The baby is sleeping.
The bird flies.
3/Some verbs are both transitive and intransitive verbs . "run" for example :

Ex :
He ran a shop --> A shop was run by him .
He is running --> (no passive)

* In this case, we focus on transitive verbs


-----To be continued-----

Alo_Picasso
07-04-2007, 03:46 AM
III/Cases of omitting the agent.

1/When the agent is general : people, they, you , we .

*When these sentences are made passive , these general agents can be omitted because they doesn't give more information .

Ex:
All over the world, people respect the knowledge
-->The knowledge are respected all over the world .

2/ When the agent is obivious :

*In Passive sentences , when all people understand who do/does the action, then there is no need to mention the agent again .

Ex : The criminal was arrested ( by the police)

3/When the agent is unimportant( we don't need to know about the agent)

Ex:
I was advised to worked harder.

4/When the agent is unknown ( we don't know anything about the agent)

Ex:
She was killed yesterday

5/When both speakers and listeners know the agent

Ex:
I was tested thoroughly.

6/When the speaker doesn't want to mention the agent. Then the agent is omitted.

Ex :
It has been agreed to increased the salaries by 5%

7/When the speaker want to focus on the action rather than the agent

Ex:
Mails are delivered to whom addressed



------To be continued ------

Alo_Picasso
07-04-2007, 04:05 AM
Verbs with 2 objects


-This kind of verbs can also be called the Verbs of giving because thet have the same pattern as " give"
-In this case, either of these objects can be the subject of a passive sentence
-We will use the object which we want to emphasize to be the subject of the passive sentence .

Ex:
The nurse gives the patient a sleeping pill
--> The patient is given a sleeping pill
--->A sleeping pill is given to the patient .

Other Verbs can be used in this pattern:( Cuối bài có file đính kèm 1 số động từ dùng như cách của động từ " give ")




Verbs with Object and Complement



-This kind of verbs is also called complex transitive verbs. There are some verbs such as: make , find.

Ex:.
*It made me ill
--> I was made ill
*People found he had died
--> He was found dead

Passive with " want" and "need"

-If the sentence follows the first structure , we have to make it passive like the second.


S+want/need+ O(1)+ to - infinitive+ O (2)
---> Passive : S+ want/ need+ O (2)+ to be Past participle + by O(1)

Ex : He wants her to take a photo
-->He wants a photo to be taken

nguyenhonghanh
10-04-2007, 06:51 PM
Trong b&#224;i n&#224;y sẽ c&#243; th&#234;m 1 số mẫu c&#226;u m&#224; phần tr&#234;n anh Alo_Picasso chưa đề cập đến <c&#243; đ&#250;ng ko nhỉ :D> , nhưng mọi ng` cứ thử l&#224;m nh&#233;.. h&#244;m kh&#225;c em sẽ post đ&#225;p &#225;n...

Change the following sentences into passive voice

1. They can't make tea with cold water.
2. The chief engineer was introcting all the workers of the plant
3. Somebody has taken away some of my books
4. They will hold the meeting before May Day.
5. They have to repair the enginer of the car.
6. The boy broke the window and took away some pictures.
7. A man I know told me about it.
8. No one believes his story.
9. Do they teach English here?
10. Will you invite her to your wedding party?
11. Did the teacher give some exercises?
12. Is she going to write a poem?
13. Have they changed the window of the laboratory?
14. Is she making big cakes for the party?
15. Why didn't they help him?
16. How many games has the team played?
17. What time can the boys hand in their papers?
18. They had sent enough money to these poor boys.
19. People believe that 13 is an unlucky number.
20. They rumored that man was still living.
21. They think that he has died a natural death.
22. People believed that the earth stood still.
23. We'll continue to use this computer.
24. They began to plant rubber trees in big plantations.
25. I have heard her sing this song several times.
26. People saw him steal your car.
27. The detective saw the woman putting the jewelry in her bag.
28. Open your books
29. Don't do that silly thing again.
30. Don't let the other see you.
31. You need to have your hair cut.
32. You must see it to believe it.
33. He wants someone to take some photographs.
34. He likes people to call him "Sir".
35. it's your duty to do this work.
36. It's dangerous for us to take the short cut.
37. We enjoy writting letters.
38. Smoke fills the room.
39. He recommends me to do the job.
40. She urges him to visite her parents as soon as possible.

Alo_Picasso
11-04-2007, 11:26 PM
[QUOTE=nguyenhonghanh]Trong bài này sẽ có thêm 1 số mẫu câu mà phần trên anh Alo_Picasso chưa đề cập đến <có đúng ko nhỉ :D> , ----->[COLOR="Red"]Anh đă nói là post xong đâu mà ! :P

emhockemtienganh
11-04-2007, 11:54 PM
1. tea can't be made with cold water.
2.all the workers of the plant were being introcted by the chief engineer.
3. Somebody has taken away some of my books
=>Some of my books have been taken away.
4. They will hold the meeting before May Day.
=>the meeting will be hold before May Day.
5. They have to repair the enginer of the car.
=> the enginer of the car have to be repaired.
6. The boy broke the window and took away some pictures.
=>the window was broden and somw pictures were taken away.
7. A man I know told me about it.
=> i was told about it.( cai nay kho qua em cha biet lam, lam bua choi)
8. No one believes his story.
his story isn't believed by anybody.
9. Do they teach English here?
i don't know if they teach E here
10. Will you invite her to your wedding party?
i don't know if u will invite her to your wedding party.
11. Did the teacher give some exercises?
i don't know if the teacher gave some ex.
12. Is she going to write a poem?
i don't know if she is going to write a poem.
15. Why didn't they help him?
cau nay lam the nao dong chi nhi
anh oi may cai cau cuoi anh cha dua ngu phap ma bao lam thi lam sao em lam duoc kho qua em dang ko biet neu anh co thong tin du lieu gi thi post tiep len di nhe thank anh nhieu .P
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Alo_Picasso
12-04-2007, 01:02 AM
1. tea can't be made with cold water.
.
4. They will hold the meeting before May Day.
=>the meeting will be held before May Day.
5. They have to repair the enginer of the car.
=> the enginer of the car have to be repaired.--->The engine of the car has to be repaired
6. The boy broke the window and took away some pictures.
=>the window was broken and somw pictures were taken away.

8. No one believes his story.
his story isn't believed by anybody.(bỏ by anybody)
9. Do they teach English here?
i don't know if they teach E here--> Do they have English taught here?
10. Will you invite her to your wedding party?
Is she invited to your wedding party ?.
11. Did the teacher give some exercises?
Did y?
12. Is she going to write a poem?
Is she going to have a poem written?.
15. Why didn't they help him?
-->
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Câu 15 anh cũng chưa rơ làm thế nào :( !

plapaza_1325
12-04-2007, 05:35 PM
C&#226;u 15 tớ nghĩ thế n&#224;y (chắc kh&#244;ng đ&#250;ng đ&#226;u:D):
Why wasn't him helped by them?

huyhoangpro
13-04-2007, 10:02 PM
Câu 15 tớ nghĩ thế này (chắc không đúng đâu:D):
Why wasn't him helped by them?
sai rồi bạn ơi sửa lại đi:D

seabird'
17-04-2007, 06:22 PM
Tại sao lại cứ thích làm cho mọi việc phức tạp vậy
15=> Why wasn't he helped ?

nguyenhonghanh
17-04-2007, 10:15 PM
em cũng nghĩ vậy đ&#243;: Why wasn't he helped?
trong tiếng anh mới th&#236; they chuyển sang ko d&#249;ng by them <nếu em nhớ ko nhầm th&#236; thế :D>

huyhoangpro
18-04-2007, 11:24 AM
Tại sao lại cứ thích làm cho mọi việc phức tạp vậy
15=> Why wasn't he helped ?

câu này có thể chấp nhận được đó ,nói chung trong những câu ko rơ ràng về chủ ngữ th́ có thể đưa về ngôi thứ 3 số ít là hợp lí nhất.Tôi nghĩ câu này như thế là hợp lí rồi. Đây cũng là 1 thủ thuật nhỏ để mọi người đỡ lúng túng trong những câu viết lại
thân!!!;)

ngườitôithuơng
18-04-2007, 11:32 AM
Đ&#250;ng vậy, bỏ by them cho đơn giản, được ph&#233;p m&#224;.
C&#225;c c&#226;u c&#242;n lại nếu kh&#244;ng ai nghĩ ra th&#236; tối TNK sẽ đ&#225;p nh&#233; (sorry, TNK phải đi b&#226;y giờ)
( Loại c&#226;u mệnh lệnh: Let + S + Be + P.P. Ex: c&#226;u 28: Let your books be opened .)

huyhoangpro
18-04-2007, 12:02 PM
tôi vừa test qua các câu mà bạn nguyenhonghanh ,phải nói là khá hay đấy ,trong đó có những câu cơ bản và nâng cao các kiến thức của passive voice cho những người đang học . Tôi góp ư với các bạn phụ trách ở đây thế này nhá ,các bạn có thể ra bài nhưng tốt nhất đừng tung đáp án lên vội mà những bài đó là những bài cơ bản dành cho những mem đang muốn trao dồi kiến thức về ngữ pháp ,họ cần những bài đó thực hành để chắc chắn ngay phần đó ,họ làm rồi post trả lời lên ,các bạn sẽ test qua rồi cho ư kiến và góp ư (pác TNK chú ư đấy nhá:D :D ). Tôi chỉ có ư kiến như thế thôi.
thân!!!!:)

ngườitôithuơng
19-04-2007, 08:09 AM
Hic hic, TNK được (hay bị) nhắc nhở :p ...
Th&#244;i TNK gợi &#253; c&#225;ch l&#224;m v&#224; c&#244;ng thức vậy nh&#233;?

16. How many games has the team played?
- giữ cụm từ Hơw many games lại l&#224;m chủ từ c&#226;u passive.
17. What time can the boys hand in their papers?
- giữ cụm từ What time lại.
18. They had sent enough money to these poor boys.
-c&#243; 2 Obj: nếu kh&#244;ng bị bắt buộc th&#236; h&#227;y lấy obj n&#224;o nằm ngay sau đ&#244;ng từ l&#224;m chủ từ c&#226;u passive, sẽ dễ l&#224;m hơn.
19. People believe that 13 is an unlucky number.
20. They rumored that man was still living.
21. They think that he has died a natural death.
22. People believed that the earth stood still.
- 19, 20, 21, 22: C&#243; 2 c&#225;ch l&#224;m loại c&#226;u n&#224;y:
- It is/ was + P.P + that clause
- Sub(mệnh đề sau)+ is/ was + P.P(V ch&#237;nh) + to Ininitive( V của mệnh đề sau, nếu 2 mệnh đề kh&#225;c th&#236; sẽ phải l&#224; to + Have+ PP)
23. We'll continue to use this computer.
- xem continue như modal verb, v&#236; kh&#244;ng thể đổi sang pasive.
24. They began to plant rubber trees in big plantations.
- d&#249;ng began như với continue.
25. I have heard her sing this song several times.
26. People saw him steal your car.
27. The detective saw the woman putting the jewelry in her bag.
- 25,26,27: nhớ th&#234;m to v&#224;o động từ nằm sau động từ chỉ tri gi&#225;c!
28. Open your books
29. Don't do that silly thing again.
30. Don't let the other see you.
- 29, 30, 31: c&#226;u mệnh lệnh Let + S + Be+ PP
31. You need to have your hair cut.
- trường hợp need c&#243; chủ từ l&#224; vật.
32. You must see it to believe it.
- đổi pasive cả 2 verbs.
33. He wants someone to take some photographs.
- d&#249;ng c&#244;ng thức causative.
34. He likes people to call him "Sir".
- bỏ people v&#224; chuyển "to call" sang pasive.
35. it's your duty to do this work.
- n&#234;n d&#249;ng mẫu c&#226;u passive kh&#225;c.
36. It's dangerous for us to take the short cut.
- đổi passive cho động từ take, v&#224; bạn nghĩ xem chủ từ sẽ l&#224; chữ n&#224;o? phải d&#249;ng dạng Infinitive passive nh&#233;!
37. We enjoy writting letters.
- cũng phải d&#249;ng dạng Infinitive passive nh&#233;!
38. Smoke fills the room.
- c&#226;u n&#224;y th&#234;m 1 giới từ trước smoke
39. He recommends me to do the job.
40. She urges him to visit her parents as soon as possible.
- với 10 động từ Advise, Beg, Order, Urge, Recommend, Agree, Decide, Demand, Be dertermined, Be anxious, d&#249;ng mẫu:
Sub + V (của mệnh đề ch&#237;nh) + that + Sub (sau To infinitive)+ should be + P.P (của To infinitive)

seabird'
19-04-2007, 10:56 AM
Nhiều qu&#225;! M&#236;nh th&#237;ch số 9 n&#234;n chỉ trả lời c&#226;u c&#243; số ch&#237;nh tượng trưng th&#244;i...
19=> 13 is believed to be an unlucky number
29=> Don't let that silly thing be done again
39=> I am recomended to do the job (by him)

wanderer_ve
20-04-2007, 10:12 AM
Đúng vậy, bỏ by them cho đơn giản, được phép mà.
Các câu c̣n lại nếu không ai nghĩ ra th́ tối TNK sẽ đáp nhé (sorry, TNK phải đi bây giờ)
( Loại câu mệnh lệnh: Let + S + Be + P.P. Ex: câu 28: Let your books be opened .)
Wanderer ko nghĩ rằng bỏ by them cho đơn giản, tùy trường hợp, nếu "they" chỗ này là những con người xác định mà người nói và người nghe đều biết chứ không fải là "they" chung chung ( dạng như people) th́ ta fải dùng by them bạn à...........

ngườitôithuơng
20-04-2007, 10:46 AM
Th́ "they" là chung chung rồi c̣n ǵ Wanderer? V́ nó chỉ có một câu trong bài tập chứ không nằm trong đoạn văn nên đâu có biết là ai? Nhưng nếu ngại th́ ḿnh cứ để nguyên:
Why wan't he helped by them?
TNK nghĩ cũng vui vẻ cả thôi... :)
À, hôm rồi TNK vội vàng đi nên không xem kỹ một số câu thuộc dạng hơi khác thường, TNK đă vào sửa lại rồi, các bạn vào xem lại nhé. TNK chân thành cáo lỗi!

avorado
20-04-2007, 08:28 PM
Cho ḿnh hỏi 1 chút. trong câu " They explained to her who all they were" th́ ḿnh sẽ chuyển như thế nào? V́ bạn ḿnh nói đáp án là " It was explained to her..." cái ǵ tiếp theo đó ko rơ. Ḿnh ko hiểu lắm. Giúp ḿnh với nhé.

huyhoangpro
21-04-2007, 01:19 AM
Cho ḿnh hỏi 1 chút. trong câu " They explained to her who all they were" th́ ḿnh sẽ chuyển như thế nào? V́ bạn ḿnh nói đáp án là " It was explained to her..." cái ǵ tiếp theo đó ko rơ. Ḿnh ko hiểu lắm. Giúp ḿnh với nhé.
làm như bạn là sai roài !! thử test lại xem ,Object chịu sự tác động của động từ là đâu? Hăy trả lời câu hỏi đó và làm lại câu này nha!!!
Khi làm bài về dạng này bạn hăy trả lời câu hỏi ở trên th́ ko bao giờ làm sai được
h́h́.
Chúc bạn thành công!!!
thân!!!!

Alo_Picasso
21-04-2007, 09:04 AM
I/ Get + P(2) and Be + P(2)


*The difference between " get + P (2) " and " be + P(2)"

Get+ P(2) : is used to emphasize the action

Be+P(2) : is used to emphasize the state

Ex :
She got married 2 years ago .
She has been married for 2 years.
The vase got broken when we moved it .

NOTE :

*Get+P(2) can't be used for used for a major planned action.

Ex :
Wembley Stadium was built in 1923.( not : Wembley Stadium got built in 1923)

*We can use " Get+ P (2) in some idiomatic expressions ( in the file attached in the end of this post)

Ex : There wasn't enough time to get washed

*After " get + P (2 ) ,there can be an adjective ending with ----ed.

Ex :
I had got interested in the film when the phone rang .

Some other adjectives are : bored , confused , drunk, excited , tired ,....



----------To be continued-------

huyhoangpro
22-04-2007, 11:02 PM
post tiếp l&#234;n đi bạn ơi ,tui đang kho&#225;i

Alo_Picasso
23-04-2007, 10:47 PM
II/ Have something done --- Get something done

*The two pattern means almost the same . They all mean " cause sth to be done" . However, there are still some different points.

( you can see the similarities and differences in the file attached at the end of this post)

III/ Active form with passive meaning:

1 /Gerund :

*After some special verbs , we use gerunds to express the passive meaning .

Ex :
These windows need painting .
The cupboard wants tidying

* Such verb are : need , want ( need) , require , deserve

2/ To+ V-infinitive

*After the subject " there" , we can use either an active or passive infinitive.

Ex :
There are a lot of windows to paint / to be painted .
There was some homework to do / to be done.

*After an adjective phrase, the infinitive is usually active.

Ex :
This machine isn't safe to use .
This piano is too heavy to move .

* If we use a phrase with " by " and the agent, then the infinitive is passive.

Ex :
The piano is too heavy to be moved by one person .
(=The piano is too heavy for one person to move ).

3/ Main verbs

*There are a few verbs that we can use in the active form with a passive meaning

Ex :
The singer's latest record is selling like hot cakes.
This sentence doesn't read quite right.



-------to be continued----------

Thy Kỳ
11-05-2007, 09:13 PM
15. Are big cakes being made for the wedding party??
16. How many games have been played by the team?
18. Enough money had been sent to these poor boys
These poor boys had been sent enough money
19. 13 is beleived to be an unlucky number
20. That man was rumored to have been living ( suy luận đại ^^ )
21. He is thought to had died a natural death
22. The earth was beleived to have stood ill
23. This comp. will continue to be used by us
hehe , web dethi.com là dành cho mấy anh chị lớn mà em nhỏ , muốn học hỏi thêm , có ǵ sai nhớ chỉ bảo ạ !!

nicerabbit
27-05-2007, 11:12 AM
Câu 15 tớ nghĩ thế này (chắc không đúng đâu:D):
Why wasn't him helped by them?

bạn sai rồi
ở passive voice th́ " they" hông sử dụng "by " được

Nhoc_Green
27-05-2007, 12:27 PM
Check these answers for me, hope they're not too bad >_<

1. They can't make tea with cold water
>> Tea can’t be made with cold water
2. The chief engineer was introcting all the workers of the plant
>> All the workers of the plant were being introducted bty the chief engineer
3. Somebody has taken away some of my books
>> Some of my books have been taken away
4. They will hold the meeting before May Day.
>> The meeting will be held before May Day
5. They have to repair the enginer of the car.
>> The enginer of the car have to be repaired
6. The boy broke the window and took away some pictures.
>> The window was broken and some pictures were taken away
7. A man I know told me about it.
>> I was told about it
8. No one believes his story.
>> His story isn’t believed
9. Do they teach English here?
>> Is E. taught here ?
10. Will you invite her to your wedding party?
>> Will she be invited to your wedding party ?
11. Did the teacher give some exercises?
>> Were some exercises given ?
12. Is she going to write a poem?
>> Will a poem be witten ?
13. Have they changed the window of the laboratory?
>> Has the window of the laboratory been changed ?
14. Is she making big cakes for the party?
>> Are big cakes for the party being made ?
15. Why didn't they help him?
>> Why wasn’t he helped ?
16. How many games has the team played?
>> How many games have been playes (by the team) ?
17. What time can the boys hand in their papers?
>> What time can the boy’s papers be handed in?
18. They had sent enough money to these poor boys.
>> These poor boys had been sent enough money.
19. People believe that 13 is an unlucky number.
>> 13 is believed to be an unlucky number
20. They rumored that man was still living.
>> That man was rumored to be still living

The others will be done soon !

Nhoc_Green
27-05-2007, 02:34 PM
Next :

21. They think that he has died a natural death.
>> He is thought to be die a natural death.
22. People believed that the earth stood still.
>> The earth was believed to ve stand still.
23. We'll continue to use this computer.
>> This computer will continue to be used.
24. They began to plant rubber trees in big plantations.
>> Rubber trees began to be planted in big plantations.
25. I have heard her sing this song several times.
>> I have heard this song was sung several times.
26. People saw him steal your car.
>> He was seen to steal your car.
27. The detective saw the woman putting the jewelry in her bag.
>> The woman was seen to put the jewelry in her bag be the detective.
28. Open your books
>> Let your books are opened !
29. Don't do that silly thing again.
>> Let that silly thing isn't done again !
30. Don't let the other see you.
>> Let you aren't seen !
31. You need to have your hair cut.
>> Your hair need cutting.
32. You must see it to believe it.
>> It must be seen to be believed.
33. He wants someone to take some photographs.
He wants someone to have some photographs taken.
34. He likes people to call him "Sir".
He likes to be called "Sir"
35. It's your duty to do this work.
>> This work must be done responsibly.
36. It's dangerous for us to take the short cut.
>> Taking a shortcut is said to be dangerous for us.
37. We enjoy writting letters.
>> Writting letters was enjoyed.
38. Smoke fills the room.
The room is filled by smoke.
39. He recommends me to do the job.
He recommends me that the job should be done.
40. She urges him to visite her parents as soon as possible.
She urges him that her parents should be visited as soon as possible.

Check and correct if there have mistakes, thank a lot !

ALU
27-05-2007, 05:15 PM
Đây là bài của ḿnh. Có ǵ sai sót mong mọi người sửa dùm. ^^

1. They can't make tea with cold water.
-> Tea can't be made with cold water.

2. The chief engineer was intructing all the workers of the plant
-> All the workers of the plant was being instruted by the chief engineer.

3. Somebody has taken away some of my books
-> Some of my book have been took.

4. They will hold the meeting before May Day.
-> The meeting will be held before May Day.

5. They have to repair the enginer of the car.
-> The enginer of the car has to be repaired.

6. The boy broke the window and took away some pictures.
-> The window was broken and somepictures was took away by the boy.

7. A man I know told me about it.
-> I was told about it by a man I know.

8. No one believes his story.
-> His story isn't believed.

9. Do they teach English here?
-> Does EL taught here?

10. Will you invite her to your wedding party?
-> Will she be invited to your wedding party (by you ???)?

11. Did the teacher give some exercises?
-> Did some exercises be given by the teacher?

12. Is she going to write a poem?
-> Is the poem going to be written?

13. Have they changed the window of the laboratory?
-> Has the window of the laboratory been changed?

14. Is she making big cakes for the party?
-> Are big cakes being made for the party by her?

15. Why didn't they help him?
-> Why wasn't he helped?

16. How many games has the team played?
-> How many games have been played by the team?

17. What time can the boys hand in their papers?
-> What time can the boys' papers be handed in?

18. They had sent enough money to these poor boys.
-> These poor boys had been sent enough money.
or Money had been sent to these poor boys.

19. People believe that 13 is an unlucky number.
-> 13 is believed that is an unlucky number.

20. They rumored that man was still living.
-> ???

21. They think that he has died a natural death.
-> ???

22. People believed that the earth stood still.
-> The Earth was belived that it stood still.(???)

23. We'll continue to use this computer.
-> This computer will be continue to use.

24. They began to plant rubber trees in big plantations.
-> Rubber trees was began to plant in big plantations.

25. I have heard her sing this song several times.
-> Her sing this song has been heard several times by me.

26. People saw him steal your car.
-> He was seen when he steal your car. (???)

27. The detective saw the woman putting the jewelry in her bag.
-> The woman was seen when she put the jewelry in her bag by the detective.

28. Open your books
-> Let your books opened.

29. Don't do that silly thing again.
-> Let that silly thing doesn't be done again.

30. Don't let the other see you.
-> Don't be seen by the other.

31. You need to have your hair cut.
-> Your hair need to be cut.

32. You must see it to believe it.
-> It must be seen to be believed by you.

33. He wants someone to take some photographs.
-> He wants Photographs to be took.

34. He likes people to call him "Sir".
-> He likes to be called "Sir".

35. It's your duty to do this work.
-> ???

36. It's dangerous for us to take the short cut.
-> ???

37. We enjoy writting letters.
-> We enjoy letters being written.

38. Smoke fills the room.
-> The room is filled by(with?) smoke.

39. He recommends me to do the job.
-> The job is recommended to me by him
or I am recommended to do this job by him.

40. She urges him to visite her parents as soon as possible.
-> He is urged to visit her parents as soon as possible.

Thank for your seeing mine.

Nhoc_Green
27-05-2007, 06:15 PM
Đ&#226;y l&#224; b&#224;i của m&#236;nh. C&#243; g&#236; sai s&#243;t mong mọi người sửa d&#249;m. ^^

2. The chief engineer was intructing all the workers of the plant
-> All the workers of the plant was being instruted by the chief engineer.>> instructed

3. Somebody has taken away some of my books
-> Some of my book have been took. >> books

6. The boy broke the window and took away some pictures.
-> The window was broken and some pictures was took away by the boy. >> were

7. A man I know told me about it.
-> I was told about it by a man I know.>> I think this phrase can be omitted .

9. Do they teach English here?
-> Does EL taught here? >> Is

10. Will you invite her to your wedding party?
-> Will she be invited to your wedding party (by you ???)? >> omitted

11. Did the teacher give some exercises?
-> Did some exercises be given by the teacher? >> Were some exercises given ?

16. How many games has the team played?
-> How many games have been played by the team? >> Can "the team" be omitted ?

19. People believe that 13 is an unlucky number.
-> 13 is believed that is an unlucky number. >> that it's

23. We'll continue to use this computer.
-> This computer will be continue to use. << This sentence doesn't have pp ???

25. I have heard her sing this song several times.
-> Her sing this song has been heard several times by me. >> omitted

26. People saw him steal your car.
-> He was seen when he steal your car. (???) <<< I don't know if it's right ^^ But if u use "when", i think u must use "past continous" tense in the clause that following "when" so ur correct sentence is "He was seen when he was stealing ur car"

27. The detective saw the woman putting the jewelry in her bag.
-> The woman was seen when she put the jewelry in her bag by the detective. <<< The same 26

28. Open your books
-> Let your books opened. << this sentence dosen't have "to be" ??? The correct will be : Let your books are opened

29. Don't do that silly thing again.
-> Let that silly thing doesn't be done again. << isn't

30. Don't let the other see you.
-> Don't be seen by the other. << I have no ideas ^^

32. You must see it to believe it.
-> It must be seen to be believed by you. >> omitted

33. He wants someone to take some photographs.
-> He wants Photographs to be took. V3 of "took" is "taken"


Thank for your seeing mine.

I've just check those, if I make mistakes, will you forgive me ? ^^

Alo_Picasso
28-05-2007, 11:04 AM
Ḿnh post bài đáp án đầy đủ nhé ! Các bạn theo dơi để biết ḿnh nhầm chỗ nào . Tại không thể sửa cho từng người được v́ như thế sẽ khó cho người khác theo dơi :

1. They can't make tea with cold water.
-> Tea can't be made with cold water.

2. The chief engineer was intructing all the workers of the plant
-> All the workers of the plant were being instructed by the chief engineer.

3. Somebody has taken away some of my books
-> Some of my books have been taken away.

4. They will hold the meeting before May Day.
-> The meeting will be held before May Day.

5. They have to repair the engine ( cái này chắc bạn viết nhầm ( engine chứ không phải engineer) of the car.
-> The engine of the car has to be repaired.

6. The boy broke the window and took away some pictures.
-> The window was broken and some pictures was taken away by the boy.

7. A man I know told me about it.
-> I was told about it by a man I know.

8. No one believes his story.
-> His story isn't believed.

9. Do they teach English here?
-> Do they have English taught here?

10. Will you invite her to your wedding party?
-> Will she be invited to your wedding party (by you ???)?

11. Did the teacher give some exercises?
-> Were some exercises given by the teacher?

12. Is she going to write a poem?
-> Is a poem going to be written?

13. Have they changed the window of the laboratory?
-> Has the window of the laboratory been changed?

14. Is she making big cakes for the party?
-> Are big cakes being made for the party (by her)?

15. Why didn't they help him?
-> Why wasn't he helped?

16. How many games has the team played?
-> How many games have been played by the team?

17. What time can the boys hand in their papers?
-> What time can the boys' papers be handed in?

18. They had sent enough money to these poor boys.
-> These poor boys had been sent enough money.
or Money had been sent enough to these poor boys.

19. People believe that 13 is an unlucky number.
-> 13 is believed to be an unlucky number.

20. They rumored that man was still living.
-> It was rumoured that man was still living .

21. They think that he has died a natural death.
-> It is thought that he has died a natural death

OR He is thought to have died a natural death

22. People believed that the earth stood still.
-> The Earth was belived to stand still.

23. We'll continue to use this computer.
-> This computer will be continued to use.

24. They began to plant rubber trees in big plantations.
-> Rubber trees were begun to plant in big plantations.

25. I have heard her sing this song several times.
-> I have heard this song sung by her several times
26. People saw him steal your car.
-> He was seen when he stole your car. (???)

27. The detective saw the woman putting the jewelry in her bag.
-> The woman was seen to be putting the jewelry in her bag

28. Open your books
-> Let you books be opened .

29. Don't do that silly thing again.
-> Let that silly thing not be done again.

30. Don't let the other see you.
-> Don't let be seen by the other.

31. You need to have your hair cut.
-> Your hair needs to be cut.
OR Your hair needs cutting

32. You must see it to believe it.
-> It must be seen to be believed by you.

33. He wants someone to take some photographs.
-> He wants some photographs to be taken.

34. He likes people to call him "Sir".
-> He likes to be called "Sir".

35. It's your duty to do this work.
-> This work must be done by you

36. It's dangerous for us to take the short cut.
-> It's dangerous for us to have the short cut taken

37. We enjoy writting letters.
-> We enjoy letters to be written.

38. Smoke fills the room.
-> The room is filled by(with?) smoke.

39. He recommends me to do the job.
-> I was recommended to do the job.(by her)

40. She urges him to visite her parents as soon as possible.
-> He is urged to visit her parents as soon as possible.

behuong
03-06-2007, 10:29 AM
khó thế mồ tổ. Sao làm được ạ

pianodream
08-06-2007, 08:43 PM
1. They can't make tea with cold water.
tea can't be made with cold water
2. The chief engineer was introcting all the workers of the plant
all the worker of the plant was being introcting by the chief engineer
3. Somebody has taken away some of my books
some of my books has been taken away
4. They will hold the meeting before May Day.
the meeting will be held before May Day
5. They have to repair the enginer of the car.
the enginer of the car have to be repaired
6. The boy broke the window and took away some pictures.
the window was broken and some pictures were taken away
7. A man I know told me about it.
i have told abt it by the man i have known

pianodream
08-06-2007, 08:43 PM
từ tư tui post l&#234;n tiếp

Alo_Picasso
09-06-2007, 11:44 PM
Tui chưa post xong m&#224; !Dạo n&#224;y lười qu&#225; , mọi người th&#244;ng cảm nh&#233; ! Cả Passive Voice v&#224; Relative Clause đều chưa xong. Hi vong l&#224; sẽ post hết được l&#234;n cho mọi người xem sớm nhất

ngườitôithuơng
10-06-2007, 01:53 PM
3. Somebody has taken away some of my books
some of my books has been taken away
Some of my books have been taken away
5. They have to repair the enginer of the car.
The enginer of the car have to be repaired
The enginer of the car has to be repaired
7. A man I know told me about it.
I have told abt it by the man i have knọwn
I have been told about it by the man I have known
Câu 7 TNK nghĩ có lẽ không cần đổi mệnh đề liên hệ sang passive, và cũng không cần đồi a thành the v́ danh từ đó vẫn mơ hồ.

Thủy Linh
03-07-2007, 11:33 PM
9. Do they teach English here?
-> Do they have English taught here?

Tớ ko hiểu sao câu 9 lại làm như vây. Theo tớ là: Is English taught here?

Alo_Picasso
04-07-2007, 09:49 AM
Special Passive Sentences

I/ The passive with the Verbs of reporting

There are 2 special patterns with Verbs of reporting, all of which can be accompanied by the agent

1/

It + be + P(2)--V of reporting + that + finite clause

Ex :
It was reported that the army was crossing the frontier ( by the BBC)

The Verbs that can be used in this structure are (*):

Admit Agree Allege announce assume believe claim

consider decide declare discover establish estimate expect

explain fear feel find hope intend know mention

notice object observe presume promise propose prove

recommend regret report request reveal say see

show state suggest suppose think understand
2/


S+be+P(2)+ to V(infinitive)

Ex :
Stonehenge is thought to date from about 1900 B.C
The Verbs can be used here are (**)


Allege assume believe claim consider declare discover

expect feel find intend know mean observe

presume prove report reveal see show suppose think

understand



--to be continued---

lehuongly
22-07-2007, 11:26 AM
post thêm vài câu cùng làm đi mọi người

wellfrog
16-08-2007, 03:56 PM
Ḿnh post bài đáp án đầy đủ nhé ! Các bạn theo dơi để biết ḿnh nhầm chỗ nào . Tại không thể sửa cho từng người được v́ như thế sẽ khó cho người khác theo dơi :

1. They can't make tea with cold water.
-> Tea can't be made with cold water.

2. The chief engineer was intructing all the workers of the plant
-> All the workers of the plant were being instructed by the chief engineer.

3. Somebody has taken away some of my books
-> Some of my books have been taken away.

4. They will hold the meeting before May Day.
-> The meeting will be held before May Day.

5. They have to repair the engine ( cái này chắc bạn viết nhầm ( engine chứ không phải engineer) of the car.
-> The engine of the car has to be repaired.

6. The boy broke the window and took away some pictures.
-> The window was broken and some pictures was taken away by the boy.

7. A man I know told me about it.
-> I was told about it by a man I know.

8. No one believes his story.
-> His story isn't believed.

9. Do they teach English here?
-> Do they have English taught here?

10. Will you invite her to your wedding party?
-> Will she be invited to your wedding party (by you ???)?

11. Did the teacher give some exercises?
-> Were some exercises given by the teacher?

12. Is she going to write a poem?
-> Is a poem going to be written?

13. Have they changed the window of the laboratory?
-> Has the window of the laboratory been changed?

14. Is she making big cakes for the party?
-> Are big cakes being made for the party (by her)?

15. Why didn't they help him?
-> Why wasn't he helped?

16. How many games has the team played?
-> How many games have been played by the team?

17. What time can the boys hand in their papers?
-> What time can the boys' papers be handed in?

18. They had sent enough money to these poor boys.
-> These poor boys had been sent enough money.
or Money had been sent enough to these poor boys.

19. People believe that 13 is an unlucky number.
-> 13 is believed to be an unlucky number.

20. They rumored that man was still living.
-> It was rumoured that man was still living .

21. They think that he has died a natural death.
-> It is thought that he has died a natural death

OR He is thought to have died a natural death

22. People believed that the earth stood still.
-> The Earth was belived to stand still.

23. We'll continue to use this computer.
-> This computer will be continued to use.

24. They began to plant rubber trees in big plantations.
-> Rubber trees were begun to plant in big plantations.

25. I have heard her sing this song several times.
-> I have heard this song sung by her several times
26. People saw him steal your car.
-> He was seen when he stole your car. (???)

27. The detective saw the woman putting the jewelry in her bag.
-> The woman was seen to be putting the jewelry in her bag

28. Open your books
-> Let you books be opened .

29. Don't do that silly thing again.
-> Let that silly thing not be done again.

30. Don't let the other see you.
-> Don't let be seen by the other.

31. You need to have your hair cut.
-> Your hair needs to be cut.
OR Your hair needs cutting

32. You must see it to believe it.
-> It must be seen to be believed by you.

33. He wants someone to take some photographs.
-> He wants some photographs to be taken.

34. He likes people to call him "Sir".
-> He likes to be called "Sir".

35. It's your duty to do this work.
-> This work must be done by you

36. It's dangerous for us to take the short cut.
-> It's dangerous for us to have the short cut taken

37. We enjoy writting letters.
-> We enjoy letters to be written.

38. Smoke fills the room.
-> The room is filled by(with?) smoke.

39. He recommends me to do the job.
-> I was recommended to do the job.(by her)

40. She urges him to visite her parents as soon as possible.
-> He is urged to visit her parents as soon as possible.

Trời ! tham gia trễ quá ,nhưng có lẽ cũng c̣n kịp "chống án " (chống lại đáp án !)của bác Alo -picasso

Nội dung :các câu : 9,25,26,27,29,30,35,37,38
cụ thể như sau:
9. Do they teach English here?
-> Is English taught here?

25. I have heard her sing this song several times.
-> She has been heard to sing this song several times.

26. People saw him steal your car.
-> He was seen to steal your car.

27. The detective saw the woman putting the jewelry in her bag.
->the woman was seen putting the jewelry in her bag.

29. Don't do that silly thing again.
-> Don't let that silly thing be done again.


30. Don't let the other see you.
-> Don't let yourself be seen by the other
35. It's your duty to do this work.
-> You are supposed to do this work

37. We enjoy writing letters.
-> We enjoy letters being written.

38. Smoke fills the room.
-> The room is filled with smoke

wellfrog
16-08-2007, 04:02 PM
C&#243; 2 c&#226;u "b&#237; truyền " đ&#226;y ! mời c&#225;c bạn nh&#224;o v&#244; l&#224;m chơi ! h&#224; h&#224; !
Đổi sang bị động :
1)Stop talking ,please !
2)Please walk on the right side !

hungsika
16-08-2007, 04:51 PM
Có 2 câu "bí truyền " đây ! mời các bạn nhào vô làm chơi ! hà hà !
Đổi sang bị động :
1)Stop talking ,please !
2)Please walk on the right side !

1) You are not allowed to talk!

2) You are reminded to walk on the right side!

:)

Conan Doyle
16-08-2007, 05:43 PM
Có 2 câu "bí truyền " đây ! mời các bạn nhào vô làm chơi ! hà hà !
Đổi sang bị động:

1) Stop talking ,please !
2) Please walk on the right side!

Đúng là bí truyền thật, Conan thử sức nha:

Người ta rất hạn chế chuyển thể mệnh lệnh cách sang bị động do nó sẽ làm giảm đi tính mệnh lệnh đă được đưa ra và không bảo toàn nguyên nghĩa, nhưng khi chuyển th́ có thể thành:

1) Stop talking, please!
1.1 Let your talking be stopped.

2. Please walk on the right side!
2.1 Walking on the right side is only allowed!
2.2 It is not allowed to walk on the left side!
.....etc

Các bạn cho ư kiến!

wellfrog
19-08-2007, 11:30 AM
Ch&#224;o b&#225;c Hungsika v&#224; B&#225;c Conan !trước hết tại hạ xin c&#225;m ơn 2 vị đ&#227; tham gia giải 2 c&#226;u "b&#237; truyền " của tại hạ .
Trước khi b&#224;n tiếp về đ&#225;p &#225;n của 2 c&#226;u n&#224;y cho ph&#233;p tại hạ c&#243; đ&#244;i điều t&#226;m sự .
Tại hạ mới lưu lạc nơi đ&#226;y chỉ mới v&#224;i ng&#224;y ,nhưng cũng nhận thấy ở đ&#226;y đầy những anh h&#249;ng h&#224;o kiệt ,kh&#244;ng &#237;t những cao thủ kiệt xuất đang ẩn danh nơi đ&#226;y .Hai vị đều l&#224; những cao thủ c&#243; tầm cở .Ri&#234;ng conan đại hiệp th&#236; h&#224;nh tẩu khắp chốn giang hồ (b&#234;n rainbow t&#244;i cũng gặp ) lại đang đức cao vọng trọng (Quyền Administrator).Th&#244;ng thường những vị c&#243; ch&#250;t &#237;t danh tiếng thường &#237;t khi tham gia v&#224;o những việc m&#224; m&#236;nh kh&#244;ng nắm chắc v&#236; sợ c&#243; sơ s&#243;t v&#236; th&#236; bị "mất tiếng ",trong khi conan đại hiệp th&#236; kh&#244;ng như vậy ,c&#225;c hạ tham gia mọi nơi ,kh&#244;ng chắc th&#236; sẵn s&#224;ng ghi l&#224; : "c&#225;c bạn cho &#253; kiến " Đức t&#237;nh n&#224;y l&#224;m t&#244;i thật sự kh&#226;m phục ,t&#244;i quyết định dừng ch&#226;n ở đất Trung Nguy&#234;n n&#224;y (dethi.com) để c&#249;ng c&#225;c vị đ&#224;m đạo học hỏi nhau.
Trở lại vấn đề về 2 "chi&#234;u kiếm b&#237; truyền" tr&#234;n ,n&#243;i thật tại hạ đến đ&#226;y qu&#225; muộn n&#234;n thật sự cảm thấy rất tiếc kh&#244;ng được c&#249;ng c&#225;c vị đ&#224;m đạo từ đầu topic n&#234;n xin c&#225;c vị cũng cho ph&#233;p t&#244;i n&#243;i th&#234;m đ&#244;i ch&#250;t để b&#249; lại ! .
C&#225;ch đ&#226;y kh&#244;ng l&#226;u một lần đi h&#225;i hoa tr&#234;n n&#250;i (hoa thật ấy chứ kh&#244;ng phải "hoa kia" nh&#233; ),tại hạ xẩy ch&#226;n lọt xuống một hang động hoang vắng kh&#244;ng dấu ch&#226;n người ,tưởng đ&#226;u đ&#227; v&#249;i th&#226;n nơi cốc địa v&#224; trong l&#250;c qu&#225; tuyệt vọng tại hạ đập đầu v&#224;o đ&#225; tự vẫn n&#224;o ngờ l&#224;m rơi ra một tấm da d&#234; trong đ&#243; ghi những tuyệt học của Độc c&#244; cầu bại tiền bối về kiếm ph&#225;p (passive voice).Sau nữa tuần trăng m&#224;y m&#242; nghi&#234;n cứu ng&#224;y kh&#244;ng ngủ - đ&#234;m kh&#244;ng ăn,tại hạ đ&#227; lỉnh hội được khẩu quyết của Tổ sư.
Chổ huyền diệu của khẩu quyết n&#224;y l&#224; &#253; niệm " V&#212; CHI&#202;U THẮNG HỬU CHI&#202;U "
Chắc c&#225;c vị kh&#244;ng tin?để t&#244;i chứng minh nh&#233; !
Theo lệ thường một người mới học kiếm ph&#225;p (passive voice) sẽ được dạy khẩu quyết từng chi&#234;u một
ex:
Gặp th&#236; hiện tại đơn th&#236; &#225;p dụng khẩu quyết : S + IS/AM/ARE + P.P
Tương tự mỗi th&#236; l&#224; một khẩu quyết kh&#225;c nhau tổng cộng c&#243; đến gần 20 thức phải nhớ ! Trong khi ở đ&#226;y chỉ c&#243; MỘT CHI&#202;U một !THẾ M&#192; C&#211; THỂ H&#211;A GIẢI HẦU HẾT MỌI CHI&#202;U THỨC CỦA ĐỐI PHƯƠNG ! bất kể th&#236; g&#236; ,thậm ch&#237; c&#242;n c&#243; thể giải những chi&#234;u m&#224; b&#225; t&#225;nh tự đặt ra ! kh&#244;ng tin ư ! h&#227;y xem những khẩu quyết trong tấm da d&#234; m&#224; tại họ c&#242;n lưu giữ dưới đ&#226;y (ảnh đ&#237;nh k&#232;m ).Ngo&#224;i khẩu quyết đ&#243; c&#242;n c&#243; những ch&#250; giải như sau:(qu&#225;i ở chổ trong đ&#226;y vận kh&#237; ngước với th&#244;ng thướng __ l&#224;m từ sau l&#224;m tới !)
C&#225;ch h&#243;a giải kiếm ph&#225;p trong thi&#234;n hạ:
Bước 1:
T&#236;m chi&#234;u kiếm thật của đối thủ (động từ )_ trong đ&#243; ghi r&#245; : kh&#244;ng được xem động từ GO v&#224; HAVE l&#224; chi&#234;u kiếm thật (động từ) đ&#243; chỉ l&#224; hư chi&#234;u của đối thủ chọn v&#224;o l&#224; tr&#250;ng kế ! Sau đ&#243; đổi V th&#224;nh P.P
Bước 2:
Th&#234;m BE v&#224;o trước động từ ,rồi chia BE giống như động từ
hồi n&#227;y đ&#227; chọn
Bước 3 :
Giữa động từ v&#224; chủ từ C&#211; G&#204; TH&#204; ĐEM XUỐNG ,chổ n&#224;y cũng lưu &#253; l&#224; đem xuống nhưng phải xem lại số &#237;t hay số nhiều cho ph&#249; hợp với chủ từ (tức l&#224; lấy nội lực của đối thủ biến th&#224;nh của m&#236;nh ấy m&#224; )
THẾ l&#224; xong !!C&#225;c vị cứ nghiền ngẩm xem,chỉ c&#243; vậy m&#224; xưa kia Độc c&#244; cầu bại một đời h&#224;nh tẩu giang hồ kh&#244;ng c&#243; đối thủ ,đến l&#250;c chết vẫn trong c&#244; độc .
H&#227;y &#225;p dụng thử nh&#233;
I will have been doing this .
Theo như lệ thường th&#236; phải thuộc c&#244;ng thức n&#243; l&#224; th&#236; g&#236; rồi &#225;p dụng v&#224;o ,nếu kh&#244;ng biết t&#234;n th&#236; hoặc kh&#244;ng thuộc c&#244;ng thức th&#236; kể như đi đời !Thử &#225;p dụng khẩu quyết trong tấm da d&#234; xem mh&#233;
Bước 1: Địch thủ đưa ra một loạt chi&#234;u :will have been doing
kh&#244;ng biết đ&#226;u l&#224; thật đ&#226;u l&#224; giả ,lơ mơ tưởng have m&#224; chọn l&#224; tr&#250;ng nhầm hư chi&#234;u ,m&#224; phải chọn doing l&#224;m động từ -> đổi th&#224;nh P.P
ta c&#243; ________ done___
Bước 2:th&#234;m BE v&#224;o :
________ (be) done___
Chia be theo V ở tr&#234;n:-> V ở tr&#234;n l&#224; Ving n&#234;n be cũng phải th&#234;n ING
______ being done____
Bước 3: giữa S v&#224; V c&#243; g&#236; đem xuống (will have been )
ta c&#243; : ______ will have been being done ___
Bước cuối c&#249;ng chỉ việc điền phần đầu v&#224; cuối v&#224;o l&#224; xong (việc n&#224;y dễ )
ho&#224;n chỉnh :
This will have been being done by me .
THế l&#224; xong đời một t&#234;n ma đầu đ&#227; bị thanh to&#224;n bởi chỉ một chi&#234;u kiếm !m&#224; kh&#244;ng cần biết danh t&#225;nh hắn thuộc m&#244;n ph&#225;i n&#224;o (th&#236; g&#236; ?)c&#225;c vị h&#227;y c&#249;ng nhau thử nghiệm khẩu quyết n&#224;y nh&#233; qua c&#225;c "t&#234;n ma đầu "sau (b&#224;i tập ) - hai t&#234;n &#225;c ma "b&#237; truyền "kia tạm thời cho hắn sống th&#234;m v&#224;i h&#244;m nữa !

Lưu &#253; mười ba t&#234;n ma đầu dưới đ&#226;y thuộc 13 m&#244;n ph&#225;i kh&#225;c nhau từ yếu đến mạnh c&#225;c vị kh&#244;ng cần nhớ t&#234;n l&#224;m g&#236; cứ &#225;p dụng MỘT chi&#234;u thức tr&#234;n tấm da d&#234; kia th&#244;i!
1) Mary types the letters
2)Mary is being the letters
3)Mary typed the letters
4)Mary has typed the letters
5)Mary has been typing the letters
6)Mary was typing the letters
7)Mary had typed the letters
8)Mary had been typing the letters
9)Mary will type the letters
10)Mary is going to type the letters
11)Mary will be typing the letters
12)Mary will have typed the letters
13)Mary will have been typing the letters
(c&#242;n tiếp )Tại hạ phải luyện c&#244;ng đ&#226;y ! see you again !

seabird'
19-08-2007, 03:41 PM
Trời ui, cụ đệ l&#224;m tui cười bể bụng n&#232;, hihii
thank you! hihiiiiiiiiiiiii^^

hokcoten
19-08-2007, 03:52 PM
t&#243;m lại chưa thấy giải c&#226;u b&#237; truyền????????

b&#225;c wellfrog ơi sao n&#243;i 1 hồi m&#224; ch&#225;u nghe như b&#237; k&#237;p v&#245; c&#244;gn rứa?

Conan Doyle
20-08-2007, 01:41 PM
Chào bác Hungsika và Bác Conan !trước hết tại hạ xin cám ơn 2 vị đă tham gia giải 2 câu "bí truyền " của tại hạ .
Trước khi bàn tiếp về đáp án của 2 câu này cho phép tại hạ có đôi điều tâm sự .
Tại hạ mới lưu lạc nơi đây chỉ mới vài ngày ,nhưng cũng nhận thấy ở đây đầy những anh hùng hào kiệt ,không ít những cao thủ kiệt xuất đang ẩn danh nơi đây .Hai vị đều là những cao thủ có tầm cở .Riêng conan đại hiệp th́ hành tẩu khắp chốn giang hồ (bên rainbow tôi cũng gặp ) lại đang đức cao vọng trọng (Quyền Administrator).Thông thường những vị có chút ít danh tiếng thường ít khi tham gia vào những việc mà ḿnh không nắm chắc v́ sợ có sơ sót v́ th́ bị "mất tiếng ",trong khi conan đại hiệp th́ không như vậy ,các hạ tham gia mọi nơi ,không chắc th́ sẵn sàng ghi là : "các bạn cho ư kiến " Đức tính này làm tôi thật sự khâm phục ,tôi quyết định dừng chân ở đất Trung Nguyên này (dethi.com) để cùng các vị đàm đạo học hỏi nhau.
Trở lại vấn đề về 2 "chiêu kiếm bí truyền" trên ,nói thật tại hạ đến đây quá muộn nên thật sự cảm thấy rất tiếc không được cùng các vị đàm đạo từ đầu topic nên xin các vị cũng cho phép tôi nói thêm đôi chút để bù lại ! .
Cách đây không lâu một lần đi hái hoa trên núi (hoa thật ấy chứ không phải "hoa kia" nhé ),tại hạ xẩy chân lọt xuống một hang động hoang vắng không dấu chân người ,tưởng đâu đă vùi thân nơi cốc địa và trong lúc quá tuyệt vọng tại hạ đập đầu vào đá tự vẫn nào ngờ làm rơi ra một tấm da dê trong đó ghi những tuyệt học của Độc cô cầu bại tiền bối về kiếm pháp (passive voice).Sau nữa tuần trăng mày ṃ nghiên cứu ngày không ngủ - đêm không ăn,tại hạ đă lỉnh hội được khẩu quyết của Tổ sư.
Chổ huyền diệu của khẩu quyết này là ư niệm " VÔ CHIÊU THẮNG HỬU CHIÊU "
Chắc các vị không tin?để tôi chứng minh nhé !
Theo lệ thường một người mới học kiếm pháp (passive voice) sẽ được dạy khẩu quyết từng chiêu một
ex:
Gặp th́ hiện tại đơn th́ áp dụng khẩu quyết : S + IS/AM/ARE + P.P
Tương tự mỗi th́ là một khẩu quyết khác nhau tổng cộng có đến gần 20 thức phải nhớ ! Trong khi ở đây chỉ có MỘT CHIÊU một !THẾ MÀ CÓ THỂ HÓA GIẢI HẦU HẾT MỌI CHIÊU THỨC CỦA ĐỐI PHƯƠNG ! bất kể th́ ǵ ,thậm chí c̣n có thể giải những chiêu mà bá tánh tự đặt ra ! không tin ư ! hăy xem những khẩu quyết trong tấm da dê mà tại họ c̣n lưu giữ dưới đây (ảnh đính kèm ).Ngoài khẩu quyết đó c̣n có những chú giải như sau:(quái ở chổ trong đây vận khí ngước với thông thướng __ làm từ sau làm tới !)
Cách hóa giải kiếm pháp trong thiên hạ:
Bước 1:
T́m chiêu kiếm thật của đối thủ (động từ )_ trong đó ghi rơ : không được xem động từ GO và HAVE là chiêu kiếm thật (động từ) đó chỉ là hư chiêu của đối thủ chọn vào là trúng kế ! Sau đó đổi V thành P.P
Bước 2:
Thêm BE vào trước động từ ,rồi chia BE giống như động từ
hồi năy đă chọn
Bước 3 :
Giữa động từ và chủ từ CÓ G̀ TH̀ ĐEM XUỐNG ,chổ này cũng lưu ư là đem xuống nhưng phải xem lại số ít hay số nhiều cho phù hợp với chủ từ (tức là lấy nội lực của đối thủ biến thành của ḿnh ấy mà )
THẾ là xong !!Các vị cứ nghiền ngẩm xem,chỉ có vậy mà xưa kia Độc cô cầu bại một đời hành tẩu giang hồ không có đối thủ ,đến lúc chết vẫn trong cô độc .
Hăy áp dụng thử nhé
I will have been doing this .
Theo như lệ thường th́ phải thuộc công thức nó là th́ ǵ rồi áp dụng vào ,nếu không biết tên th́ hoặc không thuộc công thức th́ kể như đi đời !Thử áp dụng khẩu quyết trong tấm da dê xem mhé
Bước 1: Địch thủ đưa ra một loạt chiêu :will have been doing
không biết đâu là thật đâu là giả ,lơ mơ tưởng have mà chọn là trúng nhầm hư chiêu ,mà phải chọn doing làm động từ -> đổi thành P.P
ta có ________ done___
Bước 2:thêm BE vào :
________ (be) done___
Chia be theo V ở trên:-> V ở trên là Ving nên be cũng phải thên ING
______ being done____
Bước 3: giữa S và V có ǵ đem xuống (will have been )
ta có : ______ will have been being done ___
Bước cuối cùng chỉ việc điền phần đầu và cuối vào là xong (việc này dễ )
hoàn chỉnh :
This will have been being done by me .
THế là xong đời một tên ma đầu đă bị thanh toàn bởi chỉ một chiêu kiếm !mà không cần biết danh tánh hắn thuộc môn phái nào (th́ ǵ ?)các vị hăy cùng nhau thử nghiệm khẩu quyết này nhé qua các "tên ma đầu "sau (bài tập ) - hai tên ác ma "bí truyền "kia tạm thời cho hắn sống thêm vài hôm nữa !

Lưu ư mười ba tên ma đầu dưới đây thuộc 13 môn phái khác nhau từ yếu đến mạnh các vị không cần nhớ tên làm ǵ cứ áp dụng MỘT chiêu thức trên tấm da dê kia thôi!
1) Mary types the letters
2)Mary is being the letters
3)Mary typed the letters
4)Mary has typed the letters
5)Mary has been typing the letters
6)Mary was typing the letters
7)Mary had typed the letters
8)Mary had been typing the letters
9)Mary will type the letters
10)Mary is going to type the letters
11)Mary will be typing the letters
12)Mary will have typed the letters
13)Mary will have been typing the letters
(c̣n tiếp )Tại hạ phải luyện công đây ! see you again !

Rất cảm ơn bạn đă nhớ đến Conan, thật không ngờ là bạn có thể nhận ra Conan được v́ Conan đă thay tên, đổi họ mai danh ẩn tích tại Dethi.com định thề với ḷng ḿnh sẽ không tái xuất giang hồ,kekkke nhưng kiếp nạn vẫn c̣n bởi giang hồ chuẩn bị một phen náo loạn do tấm da dê của Đại hiệp ,,,kekke.

Quay lại bí truyền của bạn, câu 1 coi như tạm ổn,

Câu hai không chia ở dạng bị động theo tấm da dê mà Conan đă được đọc th́ Walk trong câu này gọi là nội động từ (intransitive verb) và không được chia ở dạng bị động.

Giang hồ thật hiểm ác....keke :smilie_clap: :smilie_clap:

maithanhthuy
21-08-2007, 10:59 AM
2 câu này làm j` có bị động mà đ̣i chuyển

wellfrog
21-08-2007, 03:34 PM
Các bạn thân mến ! các bạn không nên nóng ḷng biết đáp án 2 câu "bí truyền" của tại hạ ,v́ khi đó các bạn chắc hẳn sẽ rất bất ngờ ! mặt khác ḿnh cũng tranh thủ thời gian để nói thêm về passive voice (bù lại thời gian tham gia 4rum trễ !hihi)

CÁCH ĐỔI CÂU HỎI SANG BỊ ĐỘNG
Bước 1:
Đỗi câu hỏi sang câu thường
Bước 2:
Đỗi sang bị động như b́nh thường
Bước 3 :
Đỗi trở lại câu hỏi

ex:
Did he take it ?
1) đỗi sang câu thường
--> He took it
2) đỗi sang bị động
-> It was taken by him
3) trở lại câu hỏi
-> Was it taken by him ?
+ Đối với câu ḥi WH cũng vậy
ex:
What did he eat at school ?
1) --> He ate what at school (what là túc từ nên cho vào vị trí của túc từ sau eat )
2) -->What was eaten at school by him.
3)----> What was eaten at school by him?(câu này trùng với câu lúc chưa là câu hỏi )
ex:
Who made you sad yesterday ?
1)-->không thay đổi v́ : S là what ,V là made,O là you
Who made you sad yesterday
2) You were made sad by whom yesterday
3)-->By whom were You made sad yesterday?
Lưu ư là nếu ban đầu là câu hỏi yes/no th́ đổi trả lại câu hỏi yes/no ,c̣n nếu là câu hỏi WH question th́ đổi trả lại câu hỏi WH question

Sau đây là một số mẫu câu bị động mà tại hạ tiếp thu được trên đường hành hiệp

people / they SAY that S V O
THINK
BELIEVE
mẫu này có 2 cách dổi sang passive :
cách 1:
-It (be) + P.P that ...(viết lại )...
chọn động từ in đậm ở trên làm động từ chính ,to be tất nhiên chia theo th́ của những động từ này
ex:
people said that he was a teacher
-> It was said that he was a teacher
-cách 2 :
Lấy chủ từ mệnh đề sau ra phía trước ,vẫn chọn động từ chính như cách 1 ,nhưng động từ của mệnh đề sau đổi thành to inf
ex:
people said that he was a teacher

->He was said to be a teacher
Trong cách 2 cần lưu ư nếu hành động trong mệnh đề sau xăy ra trước hành động của mệnh đề trước th́ dùng công thức : to have been P.P thay cho to inf
ex :
they believed that he had taken the book
-> He was believed to have been taken the book
2)MẪU V O V
Là mẫu có dạng trong câu có 2 động từ đứng cách nhau bằng 1 object
a. nếu V1 là MAKE , SEE,HEAR ,NOTICE ...và các động từ giác quan khác và V2 là bare inf
th́ khi đổi sang passive bare inf phải đổi thành to inf (riêng v1 là LET th́ không đổi )
ex:
he made me go out
-> I was made to go out
He let me go out
->I was let go out
b.
Nếu V1 là các động từ chỉ sở thích như :like ,love ,hate,dislike...

th́ chọn V2 làm động từ chính ,cách đổi giống như công thức căn bản ,các yếu tố nào không liên quan đến chủ từ th́ viết lại ,be chia giống như động từ câu trên
ex:
he doesn't like people laughing at him
chọn laughing là động từ chính ,khi ấy túc từ của nó là him chủ từ (theo nghĩa ) là people

he doesn't like không liên quan đến 3 yếu tố SVO nên viết lại :

he doesn't like(him) being laughed at
(him) = he ở đầu câu nên bỏ. câu trở thành :
he doesn't like being laughed at

he wants someone to take some photographs
-> he wants some photographs to be taken
(luôn lưu ư be luôn chia giống động từ câu trên )

3)CÂU MỆNH LỆNH
-> let O be P.P ....
EX:
WRITE YOUR NAME ON THE BLACKBOARD
->Let your name be written on the blackboard

4) động từ là : COVER,CROWD, FILL
th́ không dùng BY mà phải dùng WITH
EX:
Water covers the school yard
the school is covered by water (sai)
-> the school is covered with water (đúng )
5)có chữ DUTY
-dùng supposed
ex:

It's your duty to do this work

->You are supposed to do this work
6)có impossible
->dùng can't

ex:It is impossible to repair that machine
-> that machine can't be repaired

7) ENJOY +VING
EX: WE enjoy writing letters
-> We enjoy letters being written
7)có : RECOMMEND, AGREE,DECIDE,DEMAND,ADVISE,SUGGEST...

-DÙNG MỆNH ĐỀ THAT + S + SHOULD
EX: he recommended selling the house
--> He recommended that the house should be sold

Riêng các tự động từ : thường không đổi được sang bị động
ex:
He goes .
--> không đổi được
Ḿnh đă đi gần đến 2 câu "bí truyền " kia rồi !
Hai câu trên có đổi được không ? nếu được th́ làm như thế nào? lần sau ḿnh sẽ giải thích ,bây giờ mời bạn nào tham gia giải 13 câu bị động mà ḿnh đưa ra ở trên xem nhé !khó chứ không dễ ăn đâu !!

*o.Gemy.o*
22-08-2007, 10:48 AM
Theo em nghĩ th&#236; 2 c&#226;u n&#224;y ko chuyển dc

Conan Doyle
22-08-2007, 11:08 AM
1) Mary types the letters
2)Mary is being the letters
3)Mary typed the letters
4)Mary has typed the letters
5)Mary has been typing the letters
6)Mary was typing the letters
7)Mary had typed the letters
8)Mary had been typing the letters
9)Mary will type the letters
10)Mary is going to type the letters
11)Mary will be typing the letters
12)Mary will have typed the letters
13)Mary will have been typing the letters


2)Mary is typing the letters

---->The letters are being typed by Mary.

Lấy một câu sai làm ví dụ luôn nè------> ra đáp án đi bạn!:smilie_clap: :smilie_clap:

vienhongvan
22-08-2007, 01:46 PM
em mới tham gia diễn đàn, em chưa biết nhiều về Tiếng Anh, em muốn hỏi em phải bắt đầu như thế nào thưa cô? Em cảm ơn ạ!

Conan Doyle
22-08-2007, 02:11 PM
em mới tham gia diễn đàn, em chưa biết nhiều về Tiếng Anh, em muốn hỏi em phải bắt đầu như thế nào thưa cô? Em cảm ơn ạ!

Mới đến th́ đi theo link này http://diendan.dethi.com/showthread.php?t=2062 để wellfrog đang luyện công, kẻo tẩu hỏa nhập ma bây giờ.

@wellfrog: Conan và các bạn chờ chiêu cuối từ sáng sớm đến giờ :smilie_clap: :smilie_clap:

wellfrog
22-08-2007, 04:09 PM
Trước tiên wellfrog xin cám ơn các bạn đă tham gia cùng ḿnh !Sau đây là tất cả các lời giải của các bạn :

Hungsika:
1) You are not allowed to talk!

2) You are reminded to walk on the right side!
Bác Conan:

1.1 Let your talking be stopped.

2.1 Walking on the right side is only allowed!
2.2 It is not allowed to walk on the left side!
…. Walk trong câu này gọi là nội động từ (intransitive verb) và không được chia ở dạng bị động.
Bạn MAITHANHTHUY
2 câu này làm j` có bị động mà đ̣i chuyển
Bạn GEMY:
Theo em nghĩ th́ 2 câu này ko chuyển dc
__________________________________________________ ___-


Thôi cuối cùng ḿnh cũng xin nói ra đáp án kẽo quần hùng chờ lâu quá nỗi giận ,frog này chạy không kịp !!
câu 1:Stop talking, please!
Đây là dạng câu mệnh lệnh có V là stop ,túc từ là talking
chiếu theo công thức chia passive cho câu bị động ta có :
Let talking be stopped by you ! đây là câu chuẩn theo đúng công thức nhưng thông thường người ta thay thế bằng :
Let your talking be stopped !

Bạn Hungsika làm :You are not allowed to talk!
Về ư nghĩa th́ thoạt nghe có vẽ đúng nhưng suy nghỉ kỹ mới thấy khác .
Stop talking, please! -> người nghe đang nói và bị yêu cầu ngừng lại
You are not allowed to talk! -> có ư nói chung chung mọi lúc ,cũng có thể là lúc đó người nghe không đang nói ,hoặc chỉ sắp sửa nói
Như vậy Bác Conan đă đáp đúng câu 1,các bạn khác "chưa ghi điểm "(nói theo kiểu các game show )hihi !

CÂU 2: Please walk on the right side!

Ôí giời ! đến giờ đi công chuyện rồi ...! thôi hẹn các bạn ngày mai ....thông cảm nha!!

*o.Gemy.o*
22-08-2007, 04:33 PM
&#244;i , t&#237;nh cho b&#225;c n&#224;y đi l&#224;m MC đc đấy , đang l&#224;m th&#236; cắt phựt 1 c&#225;i , rất b&#237;t cak c&#226;u kh&#225;ch + c&#226;u time. Mọi người l&#224; cứ phải dỏng tai nghe b&#225;c &#253; d&#224;i d&#224;i

wellfrog
23-08-2007, 12:25 AM
Trước tiên wellfrog xin cám ơn các bạn đă tham gia cùng ḿnh !Sau đây là tất cả các lời giải của các bạn :

Hungsika:
1) You are not allowed to talk!

2) You are reminded to walk on the right side!
Bác Conan:

1.1 Let your talking be stopped.

2.1 Walking on the right side is only allowed!
2.2 It is not allowed to walk on the left side!
…. Walk trong câu này gọi là nội động từ (intransitive verb) và không được chia ở dạng bị động.
Bạn MAITHANHTHUY
2 câu này làm j` có bị động mà đ̣i chuyển
Bạn GEMY:
Theo em nghĩ th́ 2 câu này ko chuyển dc
__________________________________________________ ___-


Thôi cuối cùng ḿnh cũng xin nói ra đáp án kẽo quần hùng chờ lâu quá nỗi giận ,frog này chạy không kịp !!
câu 1:Stop talking, please!
Đây là dạng câu mệnh lệnh có V là stop ,túc từ là talking
chiếu theo công thức chia passive cho câu bị động ta có :
Let talking be stopped by you ! đây là câu chuẩn theo đúng công thức nhưng thông thường người ta thay thế bằng :
Let your talking be stopped !

Bạn Hungsika làm :You are not allowed to talk!
Về ư nghĩa th́ thoạt nghe có vẽ đúng nhưng suy nghỉ kỹ mới thấy khác .
Stop talking, please! -> người nghe đang nói và bị yêu cầu ngừng lại
You are not allowed to talk! -> có ư nói chung chung mọi lúc ,cũng có thể là lúc đó người nghe không đang nói ,hoặc chỉ sắp sửa nói
Như vậy Bác Conan đă đáp đúng câu 1,các bạn khác "chưa ghi điểm "(nói theo kiểu các game show )hihi !

CÂU 2: Please walk on the right side!

Ôí giời ! đến giờ đi công chuyện rồi ...! thôi hẹn các bạn ngày mai ....thông cảm nha!!


Đừng nóng ! tiếp đây!
CÂU 2: Please walk on the right side!

Như các bác đều đă biết : Nội động từ th́ không thể đổi thành passive voice được .Tuy nhiên :
An intransitive verb can be made transitive by the adding of a preposition .In the passive construction the preposition loses its function as such ,and must be considered as part of the verb
(một tự động từ củng có thể trở thành tha động từ do sự thêm giới từ vào phía sau ,giới từ lúc ấy không c̣n giữ nhiệm vụ của nó nữa mà được coi như một thành phần của động từ )
Như thế là đă rơ rồi phải không các bạn
Đáp án là:
Let the right side be walked on !
Another ex:
I sleep
-> No change
I sleep on this bed
-> This bed is slept on by me
Các bạn cứ cho ư kiến ! khi nào xong ḿnh sẽ ra tiếp tục các chiêu khác

wellfrog
25-08-2007, 12:02 AM
Không ai ư kiến ǵ .Đây là chiêu mới mời mọi người tham gia hóa giải !
Đổi sang bị động câu sau:
When coming here,don't let me see you again !

hokcoten
25-08-2007, 06:00 PM
b&#225;c ơi ch&#225;u nghĩ l&#224; when coming here, don't let yourself be seen again.

*o.Gemy.o*
26-08-2007, 02:38 PM
hehe , em đồng quan điểm với hokcoten !!!

Conan Doyle
26-08-2007, 04:21 PM
Không ai ư kiến ǵ .Đây là chiêu mới mời mọi người tham gia hóa giải !
Đổi sang bị động câu sau:
When coming here,don't let me see you again !

Sau khi mổ xẻ câu trên, Conan quyết định chọn đáp án này:

When coming here, don't let you be seen again (by me)

Các bạn cho ư kiến!

wellfrog
26-08-2007, 09:06 PM
Đổi sang bị động c&#226;u sau:
When coming here,don't let me see you again !
_____________________________
Gemy v&#224; hokcoten thiếu hiệp th&#236; giải l&#224; :
when coming here, don't let yourself be seen again.
C&#242;n Connan đại hiệp quyết định :
When coming here, don't let you be seen again (by me)
Tiếc qu&#225; !phải chi cộng 2 đ&#225;p &#225;n lại th&#236; đ&#250;ng rồi!
Đ&#225;p &#225;n:
when coming here, don't let yourself be seen again by me.
Ở đ&#226;y cần lưu &#253; hai điểm :
- C&#226;u mệnh lệnh th&#236; chủ từ được hiểu ngầm l&#224; : YOU do đ&#243; khi t&#250;c từ cũng l&#224; YOU th&#236; phải đổi lại l&#224; youself
Don't kill you ! (sai)
Don't kill yourself !(đ&#250;ng)
- "By O" chỉ được bỏ đi khi n&#224;o n&#243; c&#243; &#253; chung chung ,khi kh&#244;ng n&#243;i ra sẽ kh&#244;ng ảnh hưởng đến &#253; của c&#226;u .Trong c&#226;u đề &#253; n&#243;i đừng để cho t&#244;i thấy bạn (c&#242;n người kh&#225;c thấy th&#236; kh&#244;ng sao) cho n&#234;n ta phải giử lại "by me"
Nếu bỏ "by me " đi th&#236; &#253; c&#226;u sẽ trở th&#224;nh : khi đến đ&#226;y th&#236; đừng để bất cứ ai nh&#236;n thấy.

*o.Gemy.o*
26-08-2007, 09:12 PM
:smilie_clap: :smilie_clap: :smilie_clap: :smilie_clap: câu này hơi bị hiểm đấy !!!!

hokcoten
27-08-2007, 05:29 PM
dạ tiền bối wellfrog ơi, mạn phép đề nghị tiền bối đổi lại cách xưng hô. cả gemy và hok coten đều là phận nữ, ko dám mang danh thiếu hiệp :wacko:

câu của tiền bối quả là hiểm. đến kaka conan ra tay mà vẫn chưa xong. :|

hậubối vẫn giữ ư kiến là tiền bối như 1 cuốn kiếm phổ toàn tập, động đếnđâu là có đến đó. tiền bối c̣n chiêu nào hay hay hok mang ra cho hậu bối được lĩnh giáo :D

Conan Doyle
27-08-2007, 05:46 PM
dạ tiền bối wellfrog ơi, mạn ph&#233;p đề nghị tiền bối đổi lại c&#225;ch xưng h&#244;. cả gemy v&#224; hok coten đều l&#224; phận nữ, ko d&#225;m mang danh thiếu hiệp :wacko:

c&#226;u của tiền bối quả l&#224; hiểm. đến kaka conan ra tay m&#224; vẫn chưa xong. :|

hậubối vẫn giữ &#253; kiến l&#224; tiền bối như 1 cuốn kiếm phổ to&#224;n tập, động đếnđ&#226;u l&#224; c&#243; đến đ&#243;. tiền bối c&#242;n chi&#234;u n&#224;o hay hay hok mang ra cho hậu bối được lĩnh gi&#225;o :D

Cảm ơn bạn Wellfrog! Rất hay!

Ngồi t&#237;nh đi t&#237;nh lại được mấy c&#225;i đ&#225;p &#225;n, chọn được ra được một chi&#234;u ưng &#253; nhất m&#224; lại lĩnh đại hiệp th&#234;m một kiếm!

@hokcoten: Kaka sợ độ cao lắm, lần tới Kaka v&#224; c&#225;c muội sẽ đ&#244;ng t&#226;y y kết hợp đảm bảo to&#224;n thắng!

@Wellfrog: C&#225;c bạn đang chờ!

Th&#226;n

wellfrog
27-08-2007, 11:56 PM
Sorry nhị vị nữ hiệp !Tại hạ mới v&#224;o Trung Nguy&#234;n n&#234;n kh&#244;ng r&#245; lai lịch c&#225;c vị ,mong được thứ lỗi
Mời c&#225;c vị tiếp tục ra chi&#234;u:
1.What a nice dress you are wearing !
2.You must have seen the prices in the shop,mustn't you?
3.I eat fewer cakes than you
4.Why don't you take the bag I bought for you before going to school?
5.At the foot of the mountain stood a big man I 've never seen before
6.They have killed the bear in the forest.The other is still alive
7. The more food you eat ,the fatter you are.

kobres
28-08-2007, 10:25 AM
1. Tea can't be made with cold water.
2. All the workers of the plant were being introcted by the chief engineer.
3. Some of my books have been taken away by somebody.
4. The meeting will be hold before May Day by them.
5. The enginer of the car have to be repaired.
6. The window was broken and some pictures were taken away by the boy.
7. It was told by a man I know
8. His story isn't believed by anyone.
9. Is English taught here by them ?
10. Will she be invited to your wedding party?
11. Was some exercises given by the teacher ?
12. Is a poem going to be written by her ?
13. Have the window of the laboratory been changed by them ?
14. Are the big cakes being made for the party by her?
15. Why wasn't he helped ?
16. How many games has been played by the team ?
17. What time can their papers be handed in by the boys ?
18. Money had been sent enough to these poor boys by them.
19. 13 is belived that is an unlucky number by everybody.
20. The man was rumored that was still living by them.
21. He is thought that has died a natural death by them.
22. The earth was believed that stood still by people .
23. This computer will be continued to use by our.
24. Rubber trees were begun to plant in big plantations by them.
25. She have been heard when she sings this song several times by me.
26. He was seen when he steals your car by people.
27. The woman was seen while she is putting the jewelry in her bag by the detective.
28. Let your books are opened.
29. Let that silly thing isn't done again.
30. Let you aren't seen .
31. Your hair need cuttin.
32. It must be seen to be believed.
33. He wants someone to have some photographs taken.
34. People call him "Sir" are liked by him.
35. This work must be done responsibly .
36. Take the short cut is said to be dangerous for us.
37. Writting letters are enjoyed.
38. The smoke is filled the room.
39. He recommends me that the job should be done.
40. She urges him that her parents should be visited as soon as possible.

wellfrog
29-08-2007, 04:00 PM
Sorry nhị vị nữ hiệp !Tại hạ mới vào Trung Nguyên nên không rơ lai lịch các vị ,mong được thứ lỗi
Mời các vị tiếp tục ra chiêu:
1.What a nice dress you are wearing !
2.You must have seen the prices in the shop,mustn't you?
3.I eat fewer cakes than you
4.Why don't you take the bag I bought for you before going to school?
5.At the foot of the mountain stood a big man I 've never seen before
6.They have killed the bear in the forest.The other is still alive
7. The more food you eat ,the fatter you are.
than ôi ! vẫn chưa có ai hóa giải mấy chiêu này ! Độc cô cầu bại ơi ! Không lẽ 300 năm sau khi viên tịch ngài vẫn chưa có truyền nhân ?

hokcoten
30-08-2007, 09:38 AM
để hậu bối thử ra tay coi sao.

1. what a nice dress being worn by u!
2. the prices in the shop must have been seen by you, mustn't them?
3. Fewer cakes are eaten by than by you.
4. why isn't the bag being bought for you (by me) taken (by you)?=> chỗ by you sau n&#224;y hậu bối thấy thế n&#224;o &#253; :(
5..At the foot of the mountain stood a big man never being seen by me before
6. the bear in the forest has been killed (by them). the other is still alive.( ko bik giữ nguy&#234;n chỗ n&#224;y c&#243; đ&#250;ng ko nhỉ?)
7. the more food is eaten by you, the fatter you are.

mấy chi&#234;u của tiền bối quả l&#224; đ&#225;ng kh&#226;m phục.

ngườitôithuơng
30-08-2007, 01:00 PM
Từ tối qua đến giờ mới v&#224;o dethi được. Nhưng TNK bận đi rồi, c&#225;c hạ đừng c&#243; th&#225;ch nh&#233;! Hẹn tối nay luận kiếm tiếp tr&#234;n đỉnh... phakyluc! :)

hokcoten
01-09-2007, 01:50 PM
đề nghị b&#225;c wellfrog cho bit đ&#225;p&#225;n ạ :D

wellfrog
02-09-2007, 11:28 PM
KEY:
1.What a nice dress you are wearing !
Câu này có đầy đủ 3 yếu tố S,V,O:làm b́nh thường ,chỉ rắc rối là câu cảm nên dễ làm ta lúng túng
1.What a nice dress is being worn by you !
2.You must have seen the prices in the shop,mustn't you?
Đây là câu cũng thường thôi ,nhưng người ta chỉ gài bẫy ở câu hỏi đuôi,khi đổi sang bị động th́ đại từ của phần câu hỏi đuôi cũng phải đổi theo cho đúng công thức
2.The prices in the shop must have been seen by you ,mustn't they?
3.I eat fewer cakes than you
Rắc rối nằm trong cấu trúc so sánh hơn
3.Fewer cakes are eaten by me than by you
4.Why don't you take the bag I bought for you before going to school?
Phải biết là túc từ the bag có mệnh đề relative kèm theo sau nên khi đổi sang bị động phải đem cả mệnh đề theo.Vấn đề thứ hai là cụm từ:before going to school,là rút gọn từ mệnh đề :before you go to school(do 2 chủ từ giống nhau nên có thể rút gọn kiểu này được),tuy nhiên khi mệnh đề đầu đổi sang bị động th́ 2 chủ từ không c̣n giống nhau nữa nên nếu ta chủ quan không chú ư th́ sẽ bị sai ,mà phải viết trở lại thành mệnh đề
4.Why isn't the bag I bought for you taken by you before going to school?(sai)
4.Why isn't the bag I bought for you taken by you before you go to school?(đúng)
5.At the foot of the mountain stood a big man I 've never seen before
đổi bị động trong mệnh đề
5.At the foot of the mountain stood a big man who has never been seen by me before.
6.They have killed the bear in the forest.The other is still alive
Người ta chỉ gài bẩy xem bạn có để lại cụm giới từ không
6.The bear has been killed in the forest .The other is still alive (sai)
6.The bear in the forest has been killed .The other is still alive(đúng)
7. The more food you eat ,the fatter you are.
câu này dễ ,làm b́nh thường
7. The more food is eaten by you ,the fatter you are

ngườitôithuơng
03-09-2007, 11:39 PM
TNK đi vắng mấy ngày, không tham gia luận kiếm được rồi, không sao, dethi c̣n đó, topic ngữ pháp c̣n đây, tha hồ đấu tiếp!

1) Mary types the letters
2)Mary is being the letters
3)Mary typed the letters
4)Mary has typed the letters
5)Mary has been typing the letters
6)Mary was typing the letters
7)Mary had typed the letters
8)Mary had been typing the letters
9)Mary will type the letters
10)Mary is going to type the letters
11)Mary will be typing the letters
12)Mary will have typed the letters
13)Mary will have been typing the letters
C̣n 13 tên ma đầu này chưa ai giải nhé, TNK chỉ gợi ư thế này thôi: rắc rối là mấy th́ dài ḍng nhiều từ thí dụ như will have been typing phải không. các bạn hăy NẮM ĐUÔI NÓ MÀ LÀM (chứ không phải nắm đầu v́ Passive là đảo ngược mà, như Âu Dương Phong học sai lộn ngược đầu xuống vậy), cái nào tận cùng là V-ing th́ xử theo Continuous Passive, cái nào Have + PP th́ xử theo Perfect Passive, mặc dù nh́n rât kỳ cục nhưng bảo đảm đúng yếu huyệt, đối thủ thua là cái chắc!!!
Đây, TNK múa 1 chiêu làm mẫu nhé:
5) Mary has been typing the letters
=== > The letters have been being typed by Mary.
C̣n lại mời mọi người ra tay tiếp...
(Wellfrog đại hiệp có cao kiến ǵ phản đối cách hóa giải này không?)

wellfrog
03-09-2007, 11:59 PM
Không phản đối ǵ cả ! khà khà ! nhưng mà làm kiểu đó th́ phải nhớ công thức của từng loại ,ví vụ muốn làm present perfect th́ phải thuộc công thức passive của nó ,nói chung là cũng phải học thuộc nhiều công thức .Sao tiên sinh không nghiên cứu trong tấm da dê của ĐỘC CÔ CẦU BẠI ? chỉ cần nhớ một công thức duy nhất không sướng hơn à?

ngườitôithuơng
04-09-2007, 12:23 AM
TNK lỡ học theo bí kíp gia truyền mất rồi, không sửa lại được, nhưng cũng đơn giản lắm. Perfect thêm Been, Continuous thêm Being, dễ nhớ thôi mà.
Tiểu nữ không dám nhận danh hiệu tiên sinh của đại hiệp ban tặng đâu ạ!!! :)

wellfrog
04-09-2007, 03:20 PM
TNK lỡ học theo bí kíp gia truyền mất rồi, không sửa lại được, nhưng cũng đơn giản lắm. Perfect thêm Been, Continuous thêm Being, dễ nhớ thôi mà.
Tiểu nữ không dám nhận danh hiệu tiên sinh của đại hiệp ban tặng đâu ạ!!! :)
Sorry nha! lại một "sai lầm chết người" nữa cứ ngở Tôn Ngộ Không là giống như trong truyện ! Ở DETHI này h́nh như "âm thịnh dương suy" th́ phải ,từ nay phải cẫn thận mới được :smilie_crazy:
c̣n việc:
"Perfect thêm Been, Continuous thêm Being, dễ nhớ thôi mà." nhở nó là công thức khác th́ sao ?
ex:
He would have been doing th́ sao?
hoặc là :
He was going to make it (không phải perfect mà cũng không continue ,lại phải nhớ một công thức khác nữa chăng? Tiểu thư hành tẩu giang hồ cũng nên học thêm những chiêu mới chứ ?

ngườitôithuơng
04-09-2007, 10:37 PM
Cám ơn Wellfrog đại hiệp quá khen, nếu đại hiệp có rảnh xin mời ghé qua thăm mục "b́nh loạn nick name" sẽ hiểu tại sao tiểu nữ lại chon nick này. :)


He would have been doing th́ sao?
=== > NẮM ĐUÔI NÓ mà, V-ing là công thức Continuous.
Vậy là: It would have been being done.

He was going to make it.
===> Chiêu này cũng có trong bí kíp của ḍng họ Tôn: Be going to = Will, chỉ việc thêm BE thôi.
Vậy là: It was going to be made.
(Chiêu này áp dụng cho Will/ Shall và suy rộng ra, các động từ khiếm khuyết như Can, Could, May... mở rộng ra tới Be going to, Use to, Have to...)
Quả thật phải nhớ 3 công thức: Been/ Being/ Be th́ hơi mệt hơn là 1 công thức của Độc Cô Cầu Bại tiền bối, nhưng có nhiều người lại thấy tách ra dễ nhận diện và dễ làm hơn. Thôi th́ chọn 1 ch́a khoá vạn năng hay cả chùm ch́a khóa là tùy ư thích người sử dụng vậy. :)

Thy Kỳ
17-09-2007, 06:24 PM
Hix , cho em hỏi c&#225;i topic Reported speech đ&#226;u mất r&#249;i??
Tiện đ&#226;y cho hỏi về n&#243; lu&#244;n :D : Would like chuyển sang RS th&#236; c&#243; phải l&#224; would have liked? or giự4 nguy&#234;n vậy?
Vd : He said : " i would like a cup of coffee , please "

wellfrog
17-09-2007, 10:15 PM
Hix , cho em hỏi c&#225;i topic Reported speech đ&#226;u mất r&#249;i??
Tiện đ&#226;y cho hỏi về n&#243; lu&#244;n :D : Would like chuyển sang RS th&#236; c&#243; phải l&#224; would have liked? or giự4 nguy&#234;n vậy?
Vd : He said : " i would like a cup of coffee , please "
giữ nguy&#234;n lu&#244;n l&#224; would like bạn &#224;! Bạn c&#243; thể tham khảo th&#234;m cấu tr&#250;c c&#226;u tường thuật ở đ&#226;y (http://diendan.dethi.com/showthread.php?t=7648)

Raito
07-10-2007, 05:56 PM
[QUOTE=1) Mary types the letters
2)Mary is being the letters
3)Mary typed the letters
4)Mary has typed the letters
5)Mary has been typing the letters
6)Mary was typing the letters
7)Mary had typed the letters
8)Mary had been typing the letters
9)Mary will type the letters
10)Mary is going to type the letters
11)Mary will be typing the letters
12)Mary will have typed the letters
13)Mary will have been typing the letters[/QUOTE]
em xin trả lời anh wellfrog sửa dùm em nha
1)The letters are typed by Mary
2)The letters are being typed by Mary
3)The letters were typed by Mary
4)The letters has been typed by Mary
5)The letters have benn being typed by Mary
6)The letters were being typed by Mary
7)The letters had been typed by Mary
8)The letters had been being typed by Mary
9)The letters will are typed by Mary
10)The letters will be being typed by Mary
11)The letters are going to be typed by Mary
12)The letters will have benn typed by Mary
13)The letters will have been being typed by Mary

ngườitôithuơng
07-10-2007, 07:49 PM
1)The letters are typed by Mary
2)The letters are being typed by Mary
3)The letters were typed by Mary
4)The letters has been typed by Mary ==> have
5)The letters have benn being typed by Mary (gơ sai)
6)The letters were being typed by Mary
7)The letters had been typed by Mary
8)The letters had been being typed by Mary
9)The letters will are typed by Mary ==> will be
10)The letters will be being typed by Mary
11)The letters are going to be typed by Mary
12)The letters will have benn typed by Mary (gơ sai)
13)The letters will have been being typed by Mary
Các câu c̣n lại đúng hết rồi đấy Raito!

thienthan_hay_acquy
15-10-2007, 05:01 AM
Gh&#234;, ở đ&#226;y to&#224;n l&#224; nơi cứ ngụ của c&#225;c đại ca hok &#224;(to&#224;n l&#224; anh h&#249;ng c&#225;i thế), chắc bữa n&#224;o em cũng qua bon chen m&#237; b&#224;i^^

khiemnguyen85
27-11-2007, 03:39 PM
Hic...hic m&#236;nh l&#224; th&#224;nh vi&#234;n mới, thấy c&#225;c bạn post b&#224;i nhiều th&#236; th&#237;ch lắm....nhưng nh&#236;n th&#236; ch&#243;ng mặt qu&#225; => nản. H&#236; h&#236; nhưng phải r&#225;ng học để m&#224; c&#242;n theo mấy b&#225;c kia luyện kiếm chứ....để theo sau nhặt l&#225; (l&#225; do kiếm đ&#225;nh rớt t&#249;m lum) ho&#224;i sao được

wellfrog
27-11-2007, 05:38 PM
Hic...hic ḿnh là thành viên mới, thấy các bạn post bài nhiều th́ thích lắm....nhưng nh́n th́ chóng mặt quá => nản. H́ h́ nhưng phải ráng học để mà c̣n theo mấy bác kia luyện kiếm chứ....để theo sau nhặt lá (lá do kiếm đánh rớt tùm lum) hoài sao được]
Cứ đi theo tại hạ mà học ,tui viết bài nào cứ đọc hết ,làm hết th́ bảo đảm 1 :dancing-banana: năm sau thành cao thủ liền .

khiemnguyen85
30-11-2007, 04:28 PM
Thanks Wellfrog nha, tui sẽ cố "lết" theo bác mà học "khinh công" hic hic...
À tui có vài ư kiến với bác Alo_Picasso thế này : khi post bài lên bác có thể dịch sang tếng việt được ko vậy, tŕnh độ cỡ tui mà dịch bài của bác chắc 2h mới được 1 bài , chưa kể nếu dịch sai => hậu quả khó lường :smilie_crazy:. Chắc bác quên rằng trong room chủ yếu học cơ bản à, hay là bác post bài cho những người khá, giỏi xem?(mà những người này th́ lại ko cần bài cơ bản), bác có thể chịu khó + làm siêng tí mà dịch để cho "cơ bản" nhờ được ko:smilie_goodjob: . Dù sao th́ cũng cám ơn các bác đă có ḷng tốt post bài lên cho mọi người, hy vọng các bác cứ on and on post lên nhá :smilie_clap: :smilie_clap:

angelgirl
08-12-2007, 08:52 PM
uhm......thj` m&#236;nh cũng cố học sao m&#224; " lết kịp b&#225;c đ&#226;y vj` m&#236;nh học Anh cũng k&#233;m lắm.... cần phải học hỏi nhj&#249; :)

Khả Ái
12-01-2008, 10:55 PM
1. They can't make tea with cold water.
_tea can't be made with cold water.
2. The chief engineer was introcting all the workers of the plant
_All the workers of the plant was introcted by the chief engineer.
3. Somebody has taken away some of my books
_Some of my books has been taken away by somebody
4. They will hold the meeting before May Day.
_The meeting wil be held before May day.
5. They have to repair the enginer of the car.
_the enginer of the car have to be repaired
6. The boy broke the window and took away some pictures.
_The window was broken and some pictures were took away.
7. A man I know told me about it.
_I was told by a man I have known
8. No one believes his story.
_His history isn't believed by any one.
9. Do they teach English here?
_ Does English to be taught here?
10. Will you invite her to your wedding party?
_Will she be invitedto your wedding party?
11. Did the teacher give some exercises?
_Did some exercises be given by the teacher?
12. Is she going to write a poem?
_Are the poem going to be written by her?
13. Have they changed the window of the laboratory?
_Have the window of the laboratory been changed by them?
14. Is she making big cakes for the party?
_ Is the big cakes being made by her for the party?
15. Why didn't they help him?
_Why didn't him to be help by them?
16. How many games has the team played?
_How many games has the team been played?
17. What time can the boys hand in their papers?
_ What time can the boy's papers be handed in?
18. They had sent enough money to these poor boys.
_These poor boys had been sent enough money by them.
19. People believe that 13 is an unlucky number.
_13 is believed to be an unlucky number.
20. They rumored that man was still living.
_the man was rumored to be still living by them.
Please help me improve my grammar skill :not-worthy: , thanks everybody so much:fingerscrossed:

melissa
13-01-2008, 12:32 PM
1. They can't make tea with cold water.
_Tea can't be made with cold water.

2. The chief engineer was introcting all the workers of the plant
_All the workers of the plant was introcted by the chief engineer. (c&#226;u n&#224;y bạn sai về chia th&#236; v&#224; chia động từ)
- Bạn ch&#250; &#253; nh&#233;:
+đầu ti&#234;n, bạn phải x&#225;c định th&#236; của c&#226;u tr&#234;n l&#224; past continuous---> bạn nghĩ ngay đến cấu tr&#250;c bị động l&#224; were/was+ being+ động từ cột 3
+ sau đ&#243; all the workers of the plan được đưa l&#234;n l&#224;m Subject cho c&#226;u bị động ở số nhiều th&#236; đương nhi&#234;n phải chọn were rồi
----> đ&#225;p &#225;n đ&#250;ng sẽ l&#224; All the workers of the plant were being introcted by the chief engineer

3. Somebody has taken away some of my books
_Some of my books has been taken away by somebody
(c&#226;u n&#224;y tương tự bạn cũng sai về chia động từ, c&#226;u n&#224;y th&#236; hiện tại ho&#224;n th&#224;nh, cấu tr&#250;c passive sẽ l&#224; have/has+ been+ động từ cột 3, chủ ngữ của c&#226;u bị động n&#224;y l&#224; some of my books số nhiều n&#234;n bạn phải chia l&#224; Some of my books have been taken away

4. They will hold the meeting before May Day.
_The meeting will be held before May day.

5. They have to repair the enginer of the car.
_The enginer of the car have to be repaired
(tương tự c&#226;u n&#224;y bạn phải ch&#250; &#253; h&#236;nh thức số nhiều của chủ ngữ trong c&#226;u bị động----> chia l&#224; The enginer of the car has to be repaired

6. The boy broke the window and took away some pictures.
_The window was broken and some pictures were took away.
Took nguy&#234;n mẫu l&#224; take ---> động từ cột 3 của take l&#224; taken (bạn c&#243; thể tham khảo ở bảng động từ bất quy tắc). Sửa lại sẽ l&#224; The window was broken and some pictures were taken away by the boy

7. A man I know told me about it.
_I was told by a man I have known
Bạn ch&#250; &#253;: bạn c&#243; thể dịch c&#226;u n&#224;y ra: Một người đ&#224;n &#244;ng m&#224; t&#244;i biết/đ&#227; kể/cho t&#244;i/về điều đ&#243; vậy sang bị động phải l&#224; t&#244;i được kể về điều đ&#243; bởi một người đ&#224;n &#244;ng t&#244;i quen biết. Bạn phải ch&#250; &#253; đ&#226;u l&#224; chủ ngữ, đ&#226;u l&#224; động từ c&#242;n đ&#226;u l&#224; vật thể bị động trong c&#226;u n&#224;y mời c&#243; thể chia được. Ai được kể? C&#226;u trả lời l&#224; t&#244;i được kể. N&#234;n c&#226;u trả lời sẽ l&#224; I was told about it by a man I know

8. No one believes his story.
_His history isn't believed.
Bỏ by anyone đi bạn nh&#233;

9. Do they teach English here?
_ Does English to be taught here?
Bạn ch&#250; &#253;: C&#226;u n&#224;y th&#236; Hiện tại đơn, n&#234;n cấu tr&#250;c passive sẽ l&#224; is/are+ động từ cột 3. Đối với động từ to be như is/are trong c&#226;u hỏi th&#236; sẽ đưa ra ph&#237;a trước chứ ta kh&#244;ng d&#249;ng trợ động từ do/ does. C&#226;u n&#224;y sửa lại l&#224;: Is English taught here?

10. Will you invite her to your wedding party?
_Will she be invited
to your wedding party?


11. Did the teacher give some exercises?
_Did some exercises be given by the teacher?
C&#226;u n&#224;y tương tự c&#226;u 9, nhưng l&#224; th&#236; qu&#225; khứ đơn, bị động sẽ c&#243; cấu tr&#250;c were/was+ động từ cột 3. V&#236; l&#224; c&#226;u hỏi n&#234;n bạn kh&#244;ng d&#249;ng did m&#224; d&#249;ng were v&#236; some exercises l&#224; số nhiều----> Were some exercises given by the teacher?

12. Is she going to write a poem?
_Are the poem going to be written by her?
Như c&#226;u 2 m&#236;nh đ&#227; n&#243;i về passive của past continuous th&#236; present contunious(hiện tại tiếp diễn) cũng tương tự : is/ are+ being+ động từ cột 3. C&#226;u trả lời đ&#250;ng sẽ l&#224; Is a poem being written (by her)?

13. Have they changed the window of the laboratory?
_Have the window of the laboratory been changed by them?
Bạn ch&#250; &#253; the window of the laboratory l&#224; số &#237;t nh&#233;----> Has the window of the laboratory been changed?

14. Is she making big cakes for the party?
_ Is the big cakes being made by her for the party?
The big cakes số nhiều n&#234;n bạn phải chia l&#224; Are the big cakes being made for the party (by her)?

15. Why didn't they help him?
_Why didn't him to be help by them?
---> c&#226;u đ&#250;ng sẽ l&#224; Why wasn't he helped?

16. How many games has the team played?
_How many games has the team been played?
-----> How many games have been played by the team?

17. What time can the boys hand in their papers?
_ What time can the boy's papers be handed in?

18. They had sent enough money to these poor boys.
_These poor boys had been sent enough money by them.

19. People believe that 13 is an unlucky number.
_13 is believed to be an unlucky number.

20. They rumored that man was still living.
_the man was rumored to be still living by them.


Kinh nghiệm l&#224;m passive voice:
+ Trước hết cần phải x&#225;c định r&#245; đ&#226;u l&#224; động từ ch&#237;nh trong c&#226;u l&#224; g&#236; rồi ngh&#237;a qua cột 3 của n&#243; :D (Quy tắc: động từ ch&#237;nh lu&#244;n được chia th&#224;nh cột 3 trong c&#226;u bị động bất kể l&#224; th&#236; g&#236;)
+Tiếp theo x&#225;c định đ&#226;u l&#224; vật thể bị động. V&#237; dụ như t&#244;i mua quyển s&#225;ch. Động từ trong c&#226;u n&#224;y l&#224; mua n&#234;n c&#225;c bạn sẽ đặt c&#226;u hỏi l&#224; mua c&#225;i g&#236; ---> mua quyển s&#225;ch vậy th&#236; sẽ đưa quyển s&#225;ch ra l&#224;m chủ ngữ l&#224; quyển s&#225;ch được mua
+ X&#225;c định th&#236; của động từ ở c&#226;u chủ động, động từ được chia th&#236; n&#224;o th&#236; nhớ đến cấu tr&#250;c passvie của th&#236; đ&#243;. (C&#225;i n&#224;y c&#225;c bạn phải học v&#224; &#225;p dụng l&#224;m nhiều b&#224;i tập để thuộc nh&#233;)
+ Ch&#250; &#253; đến số &#237;t hay số nhiều của chủ ngữ trong c&#226;u bị động rồi &#225;p dụng cấu tr&#250;c passive v&#224;o c&#226;u
+ Bạn c&#243; thể th&#234;m by v&#224;o cuối c&#226;u với những chủ ngữ r&#245; r&#224;ng, x&#225;c định c&#242;n những chủ ngữ kh&#244;ng r&#245; r&#224;ng hoặc chung chung th&#236; kh&#244;ng cần th&#234;m.
+ Cuối c&#249;ng, liếc tiếp c&#225;i nữa xem c&#226;u người ta đưa ra l&#224; thể khẳng định, phủ định hay nghi vấn

Lưu &#253;:Khi đ&#227; chuyển sang passive được ro&#224;i
+Thể khẳng định kh&#244;ng n&#243;i l&#224;m g&#236;, vẫn giữ nguy&#234;n.
+ Đối với thể nghi vấn, bạn chỉ cần đảo ngược to be (is/are/were/was) ra ph&#237; trước hoặc to have (have/has/had) ra ph&#237;a trước, rồi th&#234;m... chấm hỏi ph&#237;a sau ^^
+ Đối với phủ định bạn th&#234;m not v&#224;o sau to be hoặc to have. Rất đơn giản, phải ko n&#224;o?

Ex: C&#226;u chủ động được đưa ra: Melissa is painting her house :)
+ Đầu ti&#234;n x&#225;c định động từ ---> paint ---> cứ biết trong c&#226;u bị động n&#243; sẽ th&#224;nh painted
+ Đặt c&#226;u hỏi sơn c&#225;i g&#236; ---> c&#226;u trả lời l&#224; Her house nhưng her kh&#244;ng r&#245; l&#224; ai ---> liếc ra ph&#237;a trước: Melissa n&#232; ^^ ---> vậy th&#236; đổi th&#224;nh Melissa's house sẽ l&#224; chủ ngữ cho c&#226;u bị động
+ X&#225;c định is painting l&#224; hiện tại tiếp diễn ---> nghĩ ngay đến cấu tr&#250;c passive: is/ are + being + động từ cột 3
+ Li&#234;c l&#234;n ph&#237;a tr&#234;n: Melissa's house ---> house số &#237;t n&#234;n phải l&#224; is, kh&#244;ng thể l&#224; are được
+ C&#226;u được ho&#224;n th&#224;nh sẽ l&#224;: Melissa's house is being painted (by her) C&#243; hay kh&#244;ng c&#243; by cũng được, kh&#244;ng quan trọng. Đối với trường hợp bạn muốn nhấn mạnh nh&#224; của Melissa được sơn bởi ch&#237;nh c&#244; ta th&#236; lại kh&#225;c, bạn phải d&#249;ng by nhưng sẽ l&#224; Melissa's house is being painted by herself
+ Thể nghi vấn: Is Melissa's house being painted?
+ Thể phủ định: Melissa's house is not being painted.

Tr&#234;n đ&#226;y l&#224; kinh nghiệm của m&#236;nh khi biến đổi active th&#224;nh passive voice. Hy vọng n&#243; c&#243; thể gi&#250;p c&#225;c bạn hiểu r&#245; v&#224; c&#243; c&#225;i nh&#236;n kh&#225;i qu&#225;t hơn về c&#225;ch chuyển đổi cấu tr&#250;c bị động, dễ l&#224;m hơn trong c&#225;c b&#224;i tập về passive. Ch&#250;c c&#225;c bạn sẽ ho&#224;n th&#224;nh tốt mọi b&#224;i tập về passive voice nh&#233;.

P/S: M&#236;nh thấy anh Alo_Picasso viết phần n&#224;y to&#224;n bộ bằng tiếng anh v&#224; c&#243; lẽ mọi người kh&#244;ng hiểu lắm? N&#243;i thật m&#236;nh nh&#236;n v&#224;o cũng rối loạn con c&#224;o c&#224;o chả biết đường n&#224;o m&#224; lần lu&#244;n. Nếu gặp những nguời chưa r&#245; lắm về tiếng anh m&#224; c&#242;n phải học ngữ ph&#225;p tiếng anh bằng tiếng anh th&#236; quả l&#224; kh&#243; thật, c&#242;n những người đ&#227; giỏi tiếng anh th&#236; cũng nắm r&#245; mấy c&#225;i passive n&#224;y hết rồi nhỉ :D. Theo m&#236;nh th&#236; n&#234;n c&#243; một b&#224;i hướng dẫn r&#245; r&#224;ng bằng tiếng việt về c&#225;c h&#236;nh thức chia passive cho mọi người để cho người chưa biết một t&#237; g&#236; cũng c&#243; thể hiểu v&#224; l&#224;m được. C&#243; ai đồng &#253; với m&#236;nh kh&#244;ng n&#224;o? Nếu mọi người đồng &#253;, m&#236;nh sẽ lập ra một thread hướng dẫn biến đổi active sang passive bằng tiếng việt. Okey? :) Ai đồng &#253; th&#236; cứ ấn n&#250;t thanks m&#236;nh một c&#225;i chứ đưng spam b&#224;i nha.

@anh Wellfrog: c&#243; vẻ như em bỏ lỡ lớp luyện c&#244;ng của anh rồi. B&#249;n gh&#234; : ( Kh&#244;ng biết anh c&#243; c&#242;n luyện nữa kh&#244;ng th&#236; post b&#224;i tập cho em luyện lu&#244;n với hehe. Tay nghề của em c&#242;n thấp k&#233;m lắm, phải đi theo học hỏi th&#234;m anh wellfrog nhiều mới được

Th&#226;n.
Melissa

hongduyen94
21-01-2008, 10:43 PM
1. They can't make tea with cold water.
tea cant be made tea with cold water
2. The chief engineer was introcting all the workers of the plant
All the workers of the plant was being introcted by the chief engineer
3. Somebody has taken away some of my books
some of my books have been taken away
4. They will hold the meeting before May Day.
The meeting will be held before May Day
5. They have to repair the enginer of the car.
The enginer of the car has to be repaired
6. The boy broke the window and took away some pictures.
The window was broken and some pictures were taken away by boy
7. A man I know told me about it.
I was told about it by a man I know
8. No one believes his story.
his story isnt believed
9. Do they teach English here?
Is E tough here?
10. Will you invite her to your wedding party?
Will she be invite to your wedding party?
11. Did the teacher give some exercises?
wêre some ẻxercises given by teacher?
12. Is she going to write a poem?
Is A poem going to be written by she?
13. Have they changed the window of the laboratory?
has the window of the laboratory been changed?
14. Is she making big cakes for the party?
are big cakes being made for the party by she?
15. Why didn't they help him?
why wasnt he helped?
16. How many games has the team played?
how many games has the team been played?
17. What time can the boys hand in their papers?
what time can their papers be handed in by the boys
18. They had sent enough money to these poor boys.
These poor boys had been sent ennough money to
19. People believe that 13 is an unlucky number.
13 is believed to be an unlucky number
It is believed that
20. They rumored that man was still living.

21. They think that he has died a natural death.
22. People believed that the earth stood still.
23. We'll continue to use this computer.
24. They began to plant rubber trees in big plantations.
Rubber trees in big plantations began to be planted
25. I have heard her sing this song several times.
She has been heard to sing this song several times
26. People saw him steal your car.
He was seen to steal your car
27. The detective saw the woman putting the jewelry in her bag.
the women was seen putting the jewelry in her bag
28. Open your books
let your book be opened
29. Don't do that silly thing again.
Dont let that silly thing be done again
30. Don't let the other see you.
Dont let youself are seen
31. You need to have your hair cut.

32. You must see it to believe it.
33. He wants someone to take some photographs.
34. He likes people to call him "Sir".
35. it's your duty to do this work.
36. It's dangerous for us to take the short cut.
37. We enjoy writting letters.
38. Smoke fills the room.
39. He recommends me to do the job.
40. She urges him to visite her parents as soon as possible.
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hongduyen94
21-01-2008, 10:46 PM
mấy câu sau em chịu không làm được nhờ anh giúp và gửi cho em lư thuyết phần này.ductuyenk18bo@gmail.com

hongduyen94
21-01-2008, 11:02 PM
Ḿnh post bài đáp án đầy đủ nhé ! Các bạn theo dơi để biết ḿnh nhầm chỗ nào . Tại không thể sửa cho từng người được v́ như thế sẽ khó cho người khác theo dơi :

1. They can't make tea with cold water.
-> Tea can't be made with cold water.

2. The chief engineer was intructing all the workers of the plant
-> All the workers of the plant were being instructed by the chief engineer.

3. Somebody has taken away some of my books
-> Some of my books have been taken away.

4. They will hold the meeting before May Day.
-> The meeting will be held before May Day.

5. They have to repair the engine ( cái này chắc bạn viết nhầm ( engine chứ không phải engineer) of the car.
-> The engine of the car has to be repaired.

6. The boy broke the window and took away some pictures.
-> The window was broken and some pictures was taken away by the boy.

7. A man I know told me about it.
-> I was told about it by a man I know.

8. No one believes his story.
-> His story isn't believed.

9. Do they teach English here?
-> Do they have English taught here?

10. Will you invite her to your wedding party?
-> Will she be invited to your wedding party (by you ???)?

11. Did the teacher give some exercises?
-> Were some exercises given by the teacher?

12. Is she going to write a poem?
-> Is a poem going to be written?

13. Have they changed the window of the laboratory?
-> Has the window of the laboratory been changed?

14. Is she making big cakes for the party?
-> Are big cakes being made for the party (by her)?

15. Why didn't they help him?
-> Why wasn't he helped?

16. How many games has the team played?
-> How many games have been played by the team?

17. What time can the boys hand in their papers?
-> What time can the boys' papers be handed in?

18. They had sent enough money to these poor boys.
-> These poor boys had been sent enough money.
or Money had been sent enough to these poor boys.

19. People believe that 13 is an unlucky number.
-> 13 is believed to be an unlucky number.

20. They rumored that man was still living.
-> It was rumoured that man was still living .

21. They think that he has died a natural death.
-> It is thought that he has died a natural death

OR He is thought to have died a natural death

22. People believed that the earth stood still.
-> The Earth was belived to stand still.

23. We'll continue to use this computer.
-> This computer will be continued to use.

24. They began to plant rubber trees in big plantations.
-> Rubber trees were begun to plant in big plantations.

25. I have heard her sing this song several times.
-> I have heard this song sung by her several times
26. People saw him steal your car.
-> He was seen when he stole your car. (???)

27. The detective saw the woman putting the jewelry in her bag.
-> The woman was seen to be putting the jewelry in her bag

28. Open your books
-> Let you books be opened .

29. Don't do that silly thing again.
-> Let that silly thing not be done again.

30. Don't let the other see you.
-> Don't let be seen by the other.

31. You need to have your hair cut.
-> Your hair needs to be cut.
OR Your hair needs cutting

32. You must see it to believe it.
-> It must be seen to be believed by you.

33. He wants someone to take some photographs.
-> He wants some photographs to be taken.

34. He likes people to call him "Sir".
-> He likes to be called "Sir".

35. It's your duty to do this work.
-> This work must be done by you

36. It's dangerous for us to take the short cut.
-> It's dangerous for us to have the short cut taken

37. We enjoy writting letters.
-> We enjoy letters to be written.

38. Smoke fills the room.
-> The room is filled by(with?) smoke.

39. He recommends me to do the job.
-> I was recommended to do the job.(by her)

40. She urges him to visite her parents as soon as possible.
-> He is urged to visit her parents as soon as possible.

những câu này em thấy trong một cuốn sách bài tập tiếng anh nhưng em thấy đáp án nó làm khác anh nhiều câu lắm ví dụ như:He was seen when he stole your car. (???)
nó làm như thế này "He was seen to steal your car"

không biết thế nào là đúng:ibf_confused:

linh2207
24-01-2008, 09:40 PM
21. They think that he has died a natural death.
-> He is thought have died a natural death

22. People believed that the earth stood still.
-> The Earth was believed to stand still.

23. We'll continue to use this computer.
-> This computer will be continued to use.

24. They began to plant rubber trees in big plantations.
-> Rubber trees were begun to plant in big plantations.

25. I have heard her sing this song several times.
-> this song she sing has been heard several times

26. People saw him steal your car.
-> He was seen to steal your car.

27. The detective saw the woman putting the jewelry in her bag.
-> The woman was seen to put the jewelry in her bag

28. Open your books
-> you books must be opened.

29. Don't do that silly thing again.
-> that silly thing shouldn't be done again.

30. Don't let the other see you.
-> Don't let be seen by the other.

31. You need to have your hair cut.
-> Your hair needs cutting.

32. You must see it to believe it.
-> It must be seen to believe .

33. He wants someone to take some photographs.
-> He wants some photographs to be taken.

34. He likes people to call him "Sir".
-> He likes to be called "Sir".

35. It's your duty to do this work.
-> This work must be done.

36. It's dangerous for us to take the short cut.
-> It's dangerous for us to have the short cut taken

37. We enjoy writting letters.
-> We enjoy letters to be written.

38. Smoke fills the room.
-> The room is filled by smoke.

39. He recommends me to do the job.
-> I was recommended to do the job.

40. She urges him to visite her parents as soon as possible.
-> He is urged to visit her parents as soon as possible.

elcharm
02-05-2008, 01:25 AM
:smilie_w00t: em rất hâm mộ cách dạy của anh rất dễ hiểu bài ah !:not-worthy:

girl_bank_nnn
03-07-2008, 09:29 AM
đồng ư kiến với seabird

tandaica0612
22-07-2008, 08:41 PM
Các bạn cho ḿnh hỏi về chuyển sang câu bị động của câu này:
The teacher punished the boy for his disobedience.
-->The boy was punished for his disobedience by the teacher
Hay
-->The boy was punished by the teacher for his disobedience
Các bạn cho ḿnh hỏi là câu nào đúng (hay cả 2 đều đúng) , nếu mà chỉ có một câu đúng th́ lư do ǵ khiến "by the teacher" nó đặt ở vị trí vậy trước"for his disobedience" hay sau "for his disobedience"
Thank mọi người trước v́ ḿnh hơi mất căn bản tiếng anh

wellfrog
23-07-2008, 08:30 AM
Các bạn cho ḿnh hỏi về chuyển sang câu bị động của câu này:
The teacher punished the boy for his disobedience.
-->The boy was punished for his disobedience by the teacher
Hay
-->The boy was punished by the teacher for his disobedience
Các bạn cho ḿnh hỏi là câu nào đúng (hay cả 2 đều đúng) , nếu mà chỉ có một câu đúng th́ lư do ǵ khiến "by the teacher" nó đặt ở vị trí vậy trước"for his disobedience" hay sau "for his disobedience"
Thank mọi người trước v́ ḿnh hơi mất căn bản tiếng anh
by the teacher để cuối đúng , nguyên tắc chung của bị động là cụm by để cuối chỉ có cụm thời gian mới đi sau cụm by thôi, v́ nếu cụm giớ từ đi sau danh từ của chữ by th́ sẽ rất dễ hiểu lầm
Ví dụ :
The man will build a house in the street : người đàn ông sẽ xây 1 căn nhà trên phố này
=> A house will be built by the man in the srteet : 1 căn nhà sẽ được xây bởi người đàn ông trên phố này ( hiểu lầm ngựi này sống trên phố chứ không phaỏi nhà xây trên phố)
Nên phải viết :
A house will be built in the srteet by the man.

quangdupt12
02-08-2008, 09:06 AM
21. They think that he has died a natural death.
-> He is thought have died a natural death

22. People believed that the earth stood still.
-> The Earth was believed to stand still.

23. We'll continue to use this computer.
-> This computer will be continued to use.

24. They began to plant rubber trees in big plantations.
-> Rubber trees were begun to plant in big plantations.

25. I have heard her sing this song several times.
-> this song she sing has been heard several times

26. People saw him steal your car.
-> He was seen to steal your car.

27. The detective saw the woman putting the jewelry in her bag.
-> The woman was seen to put the jewelry in her bag

28. Open your books
-> you books must be opened.

29. Don't do that silly thing again.
-> that silly thing shouldn't be done again.

30. Don't let the other see you.
-> Don't let be seen by the other.

31. You need to have your hair cut.
-> Your hair needs cutting.

32. You must see it to believe it.
-> It must be seen to believe .

33. He wants someone to take some photographs.
-> He wants some photographs to be taken.

34. He likes people to call him "Sir".
-> He likes to be called "Sir".

35. It's your duty to do this work.
-> This work must be done.

36. It's dangerous for us to take the short cut.
-> It's dangerous for us to have the short cut taken

37. We enjoy writting letters.
-> We enjoy letters to be written.

38. Smoke fills the room.
-> The room is filled by smoke.

39. He recommends me to do the job.
-> I was recommended to do the job.

40. She urges him to visite her parents as soon as possible.
-> He is urged to visit her parents as soon as possible.
Câu 29 có should đâu ấy nhỉ, câu 39 ở câu gốc rơ ràng là hiện tại đơn sao ở dưới lại là was ḿnh nghĩ là am. đây là ư kiến của ḿnh mọi người thấy thế nào

trinhkimson
21-08-2008, 03:01 PM
Bài này viết rất hay nhưng mà cho em hỏi là nó có đầy đủ kohay chỉ là một phân??

skipper
21-08-2008, 03:33 PM
Công nhận là ở câu 39 sao lại đổi th́ như thế nhỉ?

nhumai_112
28-10-2008, 11:46 AM
chả hỉu chi hệt Dạ ngữ pháp bằng TViệt đi anh, toàn tiếng anh, em hok hỉu (ga-> nên các anh chị phải ưu tiên chỉ tận t́nh tí)^^

iloveme
04-12-2008, 04:38 PM
trời hay quá chả hiểu cái ǵ cả

Masha1308
22-02-2009, 09:20 PM
Chuyển những câu sau sang câu chủ động hoặc câu bị động:
1.A note was written on the board by Mai
....
2.They will recycle the waste paper in a local factorỵ
....
3.Mr Ba grows vegetables in his small garden.
...
4.The bicycle has just been repaired by my brothẹr
...
5.The artists are painting a big picture in front of the Town Hall
...
H́ bài dễ thui ,mới vô mong mọi người giúp đỡ nh́u ạh

sakura123
24-04-2009, 09:36 PM
1.A note was written on the board by Mai
Mai wrote a note on the board.
2.They will recycle the waste paper in a local factorỵ
The waste paper will be rêcyced in a local factory.
3.Mr Ba grows vegetables in his small garden.
Vegetables are grown by Mr Ba in his small garden.
4.The bicycle has just been repaired by my brothẹr
My brother has just repaired the bicycle.
5.The artists are painting a big picture in front of the Town Hall
Abig picture is being painted by the artists in front of the Town Hall.

doanbichngoc
04-05-2009, 12:54 PM
Chuyển những câu sau sang câu chủ động hoặc câu bị động:
1.A note was written on the board by Mai
Mai wrote a note on the board....
2.They will recycle the waste paper in a local factorỵ
The waste paper in a local factory will be recycled....
3.Mr Ba grows vegetables in his small garden.
.Vegetables are grown by Mr Ba in his small garden..
4.The bicycle has just been repaired by my brothẹr
My mother has just repaire the bicycle...
5.The artists are painting a big picture in front of the Town Hall
.A..big picture is being paited by the artist in front of the Town Hall
H́ bài dễ thui ,mới vô mong mọi người giúp đỡ nh́u ạh
hihi ḿnh cũng mem mới:38_002:

latraviata_vẻdi
10-05-2009, 12:42 PM
CÂU BỊ ĐỘNG (passive voice)

BÀI 1
Câu bị động là ǵ ?

Câu bị động là câu mà trong đó chủ từ không thực hiện hành động mà ngược lại bị tác động lên bởi một yếu tố khác

Ví dụ:

Tôi ăn cái bánh ( câu chủ động : v́ chủ từ "tôi" thực hiền hành động "ăn" )

Cái bánh được ăn bởi tôi ( câu bị động : v́ chủ từ "cái bánh" không thực hiện hành động"ăn" mà nó bị "tôi' ăn )

Trong tiếng việt chúng ta dịch câu bị động là "bị" (nếu có hại) hoặc " được" ( nếu có lợi)
Khi chúng ta học về passive voice, theo “bài bản” chúng ta sẽ được các thầy cô cho học một công thức khác nhau cho mỗi th́.
Ví dụ như th́ hiện tại đơn th́ chúng ta có công thức :
S + is /am /are + P.P
Qúa khứ đơn th́ có :
S + was / were + P.P
Cứ thế chúng phải căng óc ra mà nhớ hàng loạt các công thức ( ít ra cũng 13 công thức). Như vậy chúng ta rất dễ quên và hậu quả là mỗi khi làm bài gặp passive voice là lại lúng túng.
Vậy có công thức nào chung cho tất cả các th́ không nhỉ ? Câu trả lời là CÓ !

Qua quá tŕnh nghiên cứu tôi thấy tất cả các công thức trên đều có một điểm chung, từ đó tôi tóm gọn lại cho ra một công thức duy nhất ! Nếu nắm vững công thức các em có thể làm được tất cả các loại passive thông thường, công thức lại đơn giản. Vậy công thức đó như thế nào mà “ghê gớm “ thế? Mời các em cùng tham khảo nhé. ( xem h́nh vẽ )
Công thức này gồm 3 bước như sau: để cho dễ làm các em nên làm ngược như sau:
Trước hết các em phải tiến hành chọn động từ passive, lưu ư không được chọn HAVE và GO nhé. Sau đó các em chỉ việc tiến hành 3 bước chính sau đây:


1) Đổi động từ chính ( đă chọn ở trên) thành P.P.
2) Thêm (BE) vào trước P.P, chia (BE) giống như động từ câu chủ động.
3) Giữa chủ từ và động từ có ǵ th́ đem xuống hết.

Như vậy là xong 3 bước quan trọng nhất của câu bị động (trong đó bước 2 là quan trọng nhất và hầu hết các em đều thường hay bị sai bước này ). Nắm vững 3 bước này các em có thể làm được hết các dạng bị động thông thường, các bước c̣n lại th́ dễ hơn:
4) Lấy túc từ lên làm chủ từ :

Thông thường túc từ sẽ nằm ngay sau động từ, nếu phía sau động từ có nhiều chữ th́ phải dịch nghĩa xem những chữ đó có liên quan nhau không, nếu có th́ phải đem theo hết, nếu không có liên quan th́ chỉ đem 1 chữ ra đầu mà thôi.
5) Đem chủ từ ra phía sau thêm by :



6) Các yếu tố c̣n lại khác th́ đem xuống không thay đổi
ví dụ minh họa :
Hăy đổi câu sau sang bị động:
Marry will have been doing it by tomorrow.
Chọn động từ: xem từ ngoài vào ta thấy có will (bỏ qua) tiếp đến là have (bỏ qua , v́ như trên đă nói không được chọn have ), been (đương nhiên là bỏ qua rồi), going (cũng bỏ qua luôn, lư do như have) đến doing : à ! nó đây rồi http://www.englishtime.us/forum/images/emoticons/sad.gif (http://www.englishtime.us/forum/images/emoticons/sad.gif)chọn doing làm động từ chính)


1) Đổi V => P.P : doing => done
......done..............
2) Thêm (be) và chia giống V ở câu trên : (BE) =>BEING (v́ động từ thêm ING nên be cũng thêm ING)
......being done..............

3) Giữa Marry và doing có 3 chữ ta đem xuống hết (will have been).
.....will have been being done....

4) T́m chủ từ: sau động từ có chữ it , ta đem lên đầu :
It will have been being done....
5) Đem chủ từ (Mary) ra phía sau thêm by :

It will have been being done by Mary

6) Các yếu tố c̣n lại khác th́ đem xuống không thay đổi

It will have been being done by Mary by tomorrow.
Vậy là xong, các em cứ theo các bước mà làm không cần biết nó là th́ ǵ (ở đây là th́ tương lai hoàn thành tiếp diễn). Dễ chưa !
Ghi chú:

- Nếu có thời gian th́ phải để thời gian cuối câu nhé

- Nếu chủ từ là : people, something, someone, they th́ có thể bỏ đi (riêng các đại từ : I ,you, he... th́ tùy theo câu , nếu thấy không cần thiết th́ có thể bỏ )
- Nếu có no đầu câu th́ làm như b́nh thường, xong đổi sang phủ định
- Nếu có trợ động từ do, does, did th́ be sẽ nằm tại vị trí của những trợ động từ này
ví dụ:
Did your mother cook the meal?
=> Was the meal cooked by your mother ?
They don't take the book.
=> The book isn't taken.
(kỳ sau: cách đổi câu hỏi sang bị động )
http://www.englishtime.us/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4842

HongThat
11-07-2009, 08:57 AM
[quote=emhockemtienganh;45345]1. tea can't be made with cold water.
2.all the workers of the plant were being introcted by the chief engineer.
3. Somebody has taken away some of my books
=>Some of my books have been taken away.
4. They will hold the meeting before May Day.
=>the meeting will be hold before May Day.
5. They have to repair the enginer of the car.
=> the enginer of the car have to be repaired.
6. The boy broke the window and took away some pictures.
=>the window was broden and somw pictures were taken away.
7. A man I know told me about it.
=> i was told about it.( cai nay kho qua em cha biet lam, lam bua choi)
8. No one believes his story.
his story isn't believed by anybody.
9. Do they teach English here?
i don't know if they teach E here
10. Will you invite her to your wedding party?
i don't know if u will invite her to your wedding party.
11. Did the teacher give some exercises?
i don't know if the teacher gave some ex.
12. Is she going to write a poem?
i don't know if she is going to write a poem.
15. Why didn't they help him?
cau nay lam the nao dong chi nhi
anh oi may cai cau cuoi anh cha dua ngu phap ma bao lam thi lam sao em lam duoc kho qua em dang ko biet neu anh co thong tin du lieu gi thi post tiep len di nhe thank anh nhieu .P
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wellfrog
11-07-2009, 12:37 PM
[quote=emhockemtienganh;45345]1. tea can't be made with cold water.
2.all the workers of the plant were being introcted by the chief engineer.
3. Somebody has taken away some of my books
=>Some of my books have been taken away.
4. They will hold the meeting before May Day.
=>the meeting will be hold before May Day.
5. They have to repair the enginer of the car.
=> the enginer of the car have to be repaired.
6. The boy broke the window and took away some pictures.
=>the window was broden and somw pictures were taken away.
7. A man I know told me about it.
=> i was told about it.( cai nay kho qua em cha biet lam, lam bua choi)
8. No one believes his story.
his story isn't believed by anybody.
9. Do they teach English here?
i don't know if they teach E here
10. Will you invite her to your wedding party?
i don't know if u will invite her to your wedding party.
11. Did the teacher give some exercises?
i don't know if the teacher gave some ex.
12. Is she going to write a poem?
i don't know if she is going to write a poem.
15. Why didn't they help him?
cau nay lam the nao dong chi nhi
anh oi may cai cau cuoi anh cha dua ngu phap ma bao lam thi lam sao em lam duoc kho qua em dang ko biet neu anh co thong tin du lieu gi thi post tiep len di nhe thank anh nhieu .P
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Mấy câu cuối em áp dụng công thức của cách làm dạng câu hỏi đó mà , em VÀO ĐÂY (http://www.englishtime.us/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4842) xem công thức nhé

vannguyen195
01-10-2009, 10:22 AM
5. They have to repair the enginer of the car.

>>> The enginee of the car have to be (or to be) repaired.
16. How many games has the team played?
17. What time can the boys hand in their papers?
18. They had sent enough money to these poor boys.
25. I have heard her sing this song several times.
>> She sing this song have been heard several times by me.

28. Open your books.
>> Let your books be opened .

29. Don't do that silly thing again.

30. Don't let the other see you.

31. You need to have your hair cut.

34. He likes people to call him "Sir".

>>> He likes be (or to be) called "Sir"

36. It's dangerous for us to take the short cut.


38. Smoke fills the room.
>>> The room be filled with smoke.

39. He recommends me to do the job.
>> I am recommended to do the job .



Những câu nào em chưa làm th́ các anh giải đáp giúp em với, c̣n những câu nào em làm th́ nhờ các anh chị xem đúng hay sai giúp em . Và giải thích cho em với nha. Thanks anh chị nh́u .

wicbpotw
02-01-2010, 03:32 PM
III/Cases of omitting the agent.

1/When the agent is general : people, they, you , we .

*When these sentences are made passive , these general agents can be omitted because they doesn't don't give more information .

Ex:
All over the world, people respect the knowledge
-->The knowledge areis respected all over the world .

2/ When the agent is obivious : obvious

*In Passive sentences , when all people understand who do/does the action, then there is no need to mention the agent again .

Ex : The criminal was arrested ( by the police)

3/When the agent is unimportant( we don't need to know about the agent)

Ex:
I was advised to worked harder.

4/When the agent is unknown ( we don't know anything about the agent)

Ex:
She was killed yesterday

5/When both speakers and listeners know the agent

Ex:
I was tested thoroughly.

6/When the speaker doesn't want to mention the agent. Then the agent is omitted.

Ex :
It has been agreed to increased the salaries by 5%

7/When the speaker wants to focus on the action rather than the agent

Ex:
Mails are delivered to whom addressed




Đọc phần này thấy bạn sai mấy chỗ. Nếu không phải th́ cho ḿnh sr :P

Alo_Picasso
02-01-2010, 08:28 PM
Ừ, một số lỗi typing và một số lỗi ngữ phạp Ḿnh viết lâu rồi mà quên ko check lại . Cảm ơn bạn

junsu_xiah95
16-04-2010, 12:53 PM
sai rồi bạn ơi sửa lại đi:D
anh lam sai oy
15=> why wan't he helped by them???????Not him

maigiautenanh_2611
26-05-2010, 07:27 PM
1. Tea can't be made with cold water
2. All the workers of the plants were being introcted by the chief engineer
3.Some of my books have been taken away
4.The meeting will be held before May Day
5. The enginer of the car has to be repaired
6. The window was broken and some pictures were taken away by the boy

dariusduong
07-06-2010, 11:00 AM
1. Một số động từ có 2 tân ngữ (objects). Ví dụ như động từ offer:
They didn't offer Ann a job.
V́ vậy chúng ta có thể tạo ra 2 câu bị động khác nhau:
Ann wasn't offered the job.
The job wasn't offered to Ann.
Thông thường câu bị động hay bắt đầu bằng chủ từ chỉ người (personal object). Những động từ khác tương tự offer trong trường hợp này là:
ask, tell, give, send, show, teach, pay

2. Born: hăy nhớ rằng be born là một động từ bị động (passive) và thường được dùng ở th́ quá khứ

3. H́nh thức bị động của -ing là being V3
Hurry up! You know Mr.Miller hates being kept waiting

4. Đôi khi bạn có thể dùng get thay cho be trong thể bị động:
There was a fight at the party but nobody got hụrt
Bạn có thể dùng get trong thể bị động để diễn tả một việc nào đó xảy ra cho ai hay cho cái ǵ. Thường th́ hành động đó không được dự tính trước đó, nó xảy ra một cách t́nh cờ
The dog got run over by a car
Trong những loại t́nh huống khác, get thường không dùng đươc.
George is liked by everyone
Get chủ yếu được dùng trong văn nói tiếng Anh thường ngày. Bạn có thể dùng be trong tất cả mọi t́nh huống

:byebye::byebye::byebye:

doanngocvien
14-06-2010, 09:01 PM
bạn k dịch ra tiếng viêt... ḿnh đọc cũng mỏi mắt tra từ điển hic

SUPER UFO
14-06-2010, 09:54 PM
PASSIVE VOICE

I/Passive voice (P.V): is usually to emphasize the result, the fact or the object of an action ,not the agent.

*P.V is used only with Transitive Verb
*P.V is used more commonly in written language , especially in the impersonal style of textbooks or report ( to describe an industrial and scientific process, to describe historical and social process or in official rules and procedures)

Ex :
The ore is usually dug out of the ground.
Applications should be made in writing.

II/Form


General form :
S+Vt+O ( Vt= transitive verb)

-->PV:S(o) + be + P(2)+ (by O)

NOTE:

*to be in passive sentence is always in the same forms and tenses & main verbs in the active sentence.

In P.V:

*To verb is changed into to be P(2)

*Verb is changed into be P(2)

*V-ing is changed into Being P(2)

*Modal verbs work in the same way :
S+ modal verb + Vt+ O

->P.V : S(o)+modal verb + be+P(2) + (by S)

Ex :
The windows in being painted .
The machine can be taken apart.


BASIC USES of passive voice

I/Agent and instrument:

*Agent : A person who does the action in the Passive sentence is called the agent
*Instrument : Things which cause something to happen in a passive sentence is called an instrument .

Ex:
I was hit by a branch ( The branch itself hit me)
Iwas hit with a branch ( Some one use a branch to hit me ).

II/Transitive and intrasitive verbs :

1/Transitive verbs are the verbs with object.

There are 3 kinds of Vt( verb transitive )

---Memo-trasitive verbB] : verb with 1 object (read, write,...)
---Di-transitive verb :verb with 2 objects(give, bring,pay,hand,show...)
---Complex transitive verb

Ex:
I read the newspapers yesterday.
I gave her a present.

--All Vt.s can be made passive except :become, have, get, suit, fit, resemble.

2/Intrasitive verbs are verbs with no object :

Ex:
The baby is sleeping.
The bird flies.
[B]3/Some verbs are both transitive and intransitive verbs . "run" for example :

Ex :
He ran a shop --> A shop was run by him .
He is running --> (no passive)

* In this case, we focus on transitive verbs


-----To be continued-----
Cảm ơn bạn đă có bài viết hữu ích.Tuy nhiên, tôi muốn góp thêm vài ư sau :
1- Không hẳn chỉ có TRANSITIVE VERB(ngoại động từ hoặc tha động từ) mới được sử dụng ở thể thụ động .Tôi đă gặp câu sau:
- She will never TALK if she isn't TALKED to. (to talk là INTRANSITIVE VER-nội động từ hoặc tự động từ)
2-Có một số TRANSITIVE VERB không được sử dụng ở thể thụ đông.
- Alice HAS a bike.(SAI: A bike IS HAD by Alice)

SUPER UFO
15-06-2010, 06:38 AM
Cảm ơn bạn đă có bài viết hữu ích.Tuy nhiên, tôi muốn góp thêm vài ư sau :
1- Không hẳn chỉ có TRANSITIVE VERB(ngoại động từ hoặc tha động từ) mới được sử dụng ở thể thụ động .Tôi đă gặp câu sau:
- She will never TALK if she isn't TALKED to. (to talk là INTRANSITIVE VER-nội động từ hoặc tự động từ)
2-Có một số TRANSITIVE VERB không được sử dụng ở thể thụ đông.
- Alice HAS a bike.(SAI: A bike IS HAD by Alice)
Sorry. Phần 2 đă được Àlo-Picasso nói rồi

ongmat222
20-07-2010, 09:24 PM
bạn viết bài như vậy người học qua rồi thỳ sẽ hiểu nhưng người mới muốn học th́ sẽ không biết. Theo ḿnh bạn nên bổ sung thêm các công thức để làm rơ.

konquer_htm
24-07-2010, 03:54 PM
tại sao không dịch ra tiếng việt học cho dễ nhị chứ chép nguyên như thế này th́ hơi khổ cho newbie

Phan Huong Ly
18-08-2010, 07:13 AM
Ḿnh là thành viên mới toe,ḿnh chưa post lên diễn đàn.Mong các bạn chỉ giạo

duc loc
19-08-2010, 03:48 PM
15. why din't he be helped?
ḿnh nghĩ vậy hok biết đúng hem?

ngocquynh_girl_like_candy
16-10-2010, 09:35 PM
sao không thấy đề cập đến công thức bị động của các dạng câu nghi vấn vậy??????????????

i.smile:)
09-05-2011, 07:39 PM
thanks:) hjhjhjhehejhjheje

Hằng Moon
01-06-2011, 01:53 PM
The PASSIVE and THE ACTIVE VOICE
I.Change the following sentences into Passive voice.
1.They can't make tea with cold water.
2.The chief engineer was instructing all the workers of the plant.
3.Somebody has taken away some of my books.
4.They will hold the meeting before May day
5.They have to repair the engine of the car
6.The boys broke the windown and took qway some pictures
7.People spend a lot of money on advertising every year
8.They may use this room for the classroom
9.The teacher is going to tell a story
10.Mary is cutting the cake with a sharp knife
11.The children looked at the womqn with a red hat.
12.They have provided the victims with food and clothing
13.People speak E in almost every corner of the world
14.You mustn't use this machine after 5.30 p.m
15.Luckily for me, They didn't call my name
16.After class, one of the students always erases the chalk board
17.You must clean the wall before you paint it.
18.They told the new pupil where to sit
19.I know that they had toldhim of the meeting.
20.Nobody has ever treated me with such kindness
21.No one believes his story
22.A sudden inrease in water pressure may beak the dam.
23.We must take good care of books borrowed from the library.
24.A man I know told me about it
25.We can never find him at home for he is always on the move.

Hằng Moon
01-06-2011, 02:02 PM
WH-questions
a.Why didn't they help him?
b.How many games has the team played?
c.Where do people speak E?
d.Who are they keeping in the kitchen?
e.How can they open this safe?
f.What books are people reading this year?
g.How did the police find the lost man?
h.Who looked after the children for you?
i.How long have they waited for the doctor?
j.What time can the boys hand in their the doctor?
Minh nghi nen chia ro tung loai bi dong cho de lam.thanks

Hằng Moon
01-06-2011, 02:07 PM
Sentences With 2 Objects
A.the Teacher Gave Each Of Us Two Exercises Books.
B.someone Will Tell Him That News
C.they Had Sent Enough Money To These Poor Boys
D.they Have Given The Women In Most Countries In The World The Right To Vote.
E.they Paid Me A Lot Of Money To Do The Job

Hằng Moon
01-06-2011, 02:11 PM
Sentences With Phrasal Verbs
A.they Geve Up The Research After Three Hours
B.someone Should Look Into The Matter
C.don't Speak Until Someone Speaks To You
D.a Neighbour Is Looking After The Children
E.your Story Brinhs Back Pleasant Memories

Hằng Moon
01-06-2011, 02:17 PM
Sentences With Verbs Of Perception
A.i Have Heard Her Sing This Song Several Times.
B.people Saw Hin Steal Your Car
C.the Teacher Is Watching Them Work
D.he Won't Let You Do That Silly Thing Again
E.people Don't Make The Children Work Hard
F.they Made Him Work All Day
G.the Detective Saw The Woman Putting The Jewelry In Her Bag
H.the Terrorists Made The Hostages Lie Down
I.police Advise Drivers To Use An Alternative Route.
J.she Helps Me To Do All These Difficult Exercises

Hằng Moon
01-06-2011, 02:19 PM
Sentences Of Order
A.open Your Book
B.tAke Off Your Hat
C.don't Do That Silly Thing Again
D.let's Tell Them About It
E.don't Let The Other See You

Hằng Moon
01-06-2011, 02:22 PM
Sentences With 'advise,beg,order,urge,agree,decide'
A.she Advised Me To Sell That House
B.thay Begged Us To Help Them
C.he Orders Us To Clean The Floor
D.he Recommends Me To Do The Job
E.she Urges Him To Visit Her Parents As Soon As Possible

Hằng Moon
01-06-2011, 02:26 PM
Some Special Sentences
A.it Is Dangerous For Us To Take The Short Cut
B.you Need To Have Your Hair Cut
C.smoke Filled The Room
D.you Must See It to Believe It
E.he Wants Someone To Take Some Photographs
F.he Likes People To Call Him "sir"
G.it's Your Duty To Do This Work
H.we Enjoy Writing Letters
I.nobody Has Slept In This Room For Long Time
J.you Ordered Me About And I Was Tired Of It
:85::85:

Hằng Moon
01-06-2011, 02:50 PM
SETENCE WITH VERBS "COTINUE AND BEGIN"
A.WE'LL COTINUE TO USE THIS COMPUTER
B.THEY BEGAN TO PLANT RUBBER TREES IN BIG PLANTATIONS
C.PEOPLE WILL CONTINUETO DRINK COCA-COLA IN THE 21st CENTURY
E.AMERICAN PEOPLE BEGIN TO LOVE FOOTBAL

bagiakute
05-06-2011, 03:41 PM
hello.everybody !!!

pampi93dn
25-06-2011, 09:13 PM
đề nghị mấy bạn viết tiếng việt chứ mấy ng` mới học tiếng anh thỳ sao mà hiểu đc

angel love
26-06-2011, 11:08 AM
the Passive And The Active Voice
i.change The Following Sentences Into Passive Voice.
1.tea Can't Be Made With Cold Water.
2.all The Workers Were Being Instructed The Plan By The Chief Engineer
3.some Of My Books Have Been Taken Away.
4.the Meeting Will Be Held Before May Day
5.the Engine Of The Car Has To Be Repaired
6.the Windown Was Broken And Some Pictures Were Taken Away.
7.a Lot Of Money Is Spent On Advertising Every Year
8.this Room May Be Used For The Classroom
9.a Story Is Going To Be Told By The Teacher.
10.the Cake Is Being Cut With A Sharp Knife By Mary.
11.the Woman With A Red Hat Was Looked At By The Chilren.
12.the Victims Have Been Provided With Food And Clothing
13.e Is Spoken In Almost Every Corner Of The World
14.this Machine Mustn't Be Used After 5.30 P.m
15.luckily For Me, My Name Wasn't Called By Them
16.after Class, The Chalk Board Is Always Erased By One Of The Students.
17.the Wall Must Be Cleaned Before Being Painted.
18.the New Pupil Was Told Where To Sit By Them.
19.i Know That He Had Been Told Of The Meeting.
20.i Have Never Been Treated With Such Kindness Before.
21.his Story Isn't Believed By Anyone.
22.the Dam May Be Broken By A Sudden Inrease In Water Pressure
23.books Borrowed From The Library Must Be Taken Good Care Of.
24.i Was Told Me About It By A Man I Know.
25.he Can Never Be Found At Home For He Is Always On The Move.
:10::10::10::10:

angel love
26-06-2011, 11:13 AM
[quote=Hằng Moon;421061]WH-questions
a.Why wasn't he helped ?
b.How many games has been played by the team?
c.Where is E spoken?
d.Who is being kept in the kitchen?
e.How can this safe be opened?
f.What books are being read this year?
g.Hơw was the lost man found by the police?
h.By Whom were the children looked after for you?
i.How long has the doctor been waited for by them?
j.What time can the boys hand in their the doctor?( câu này không hiểu)

lupin_20114
20-08-2012, 06:32 AM
28. Open your books
=> let your books be opened
29. Don't do that silly thing again.
=> let not that silly thing be done again
30. Don't let the other see you.
=> let not you be seen by the orther
31. You need to have your hair cut.
=> your hair is needed to cut
32. You must see it to believe it.
=> it must be seen to believe
33. He wants someone to take some photographs.
=> he wants some photographs to be taken
34. He likes people to call him "Sir".
=> he likes to be called sir
35. it's your duty to do this work.
=> GIVE ME THE ANSWER, PLEASE
36. It's dangerous for us to take the short cut.
=> it's dangerous to be taken the shortcut
37. We enjoy writting letters.
=>
38. Smoke fills the room.
39. He recommends me to do the job.
=> i was recommend to do the job
40. She urges him to visite her parents as soon as possible.

johnlynguyen
03-09-2012, 10:29 AM
Cho emhoi cach doi will have done sang dang passive voice thi tn a ? Thanks
They will have been rebuilding it by this time next month

johnlynguyen
03-09-2012, 10:32 AM
Your duty is that this work is done .

johnlynguyen
03-09-2012, 10:34 AM
28. Open your books
=> let your books be opened
29. Don't do that silly thing again.
=> let not that silly thing be done again
30. Don't let the other see you.
=> let not you be seen by the orther
31. You need to have your hair cut.
=> your hair is needed to cut
32. You must see it to believe it.
=> it must be seen to believe
33. He wants someone to take some photographs.
=> he wants some photographs to be taken
34. He likes people to call him "Sir".
=> he likes to be called sir
35. it's your duty to do this work.
=> GIVE ME THE ANSWER, PLEASE
36. It's dangerous for us to take the short cut.
=> it's dangerous to be taken the shortcut
37. We enjoy writting letters.
=>
38. Smoke fills the room.
39. He recommends me to do the job.
=> i was recommend to do the job
40. She urges him to visite her parents as soon as possible.

Your duty is that this work is done (i don't sure that it's right , i just think so )

matf9999
03-09-2012, 10:39 AM
Cho emhoi cach doi will have done sang dang passive voice thi tn a ? Thanks
They will have been rebuilding it by this time next month
It will have been being rebuit by this time next month.

matf9999
03-09-2012, 10:43 AM
It's your duty to do this work.
=> You are supposed to do this work.
Hoặc:
=> It's your duty to get this worked done.

Tiệu P̣
23-01-2013, 10:46 PM
1.They can't make tea with cold water.
>> The tea can't be made with cold water

2.The chief engineer was instructing all the workers of the plant.
>> All the workers were being instructed of the plant

3.Somebody has taken away some of my books.
>> Some of my books has been taken away

4.They will hold the meeting before May day
>> The meeting will be hold before May day

5.They have to repair the engine of the car
>> The engie of the car has been repaired

6.The boys broke the windown and took qway some pictures
>> The windown was broken and some pictures was took away

7.People spend a lot of money on advertising every year
>> A lot of money was spend on advertising every year

8.They may use this room for the classroom
>> This room may be used for the classroom

9.The teacher is going to tell a story
>> ???

10.Mary is cutting the cake with a sharp knife
>> The cake is cut with a sharp knife

11.The children looked at the womqn with a red hat.
>> The woman was looked with a red hat

12.They have provided the victims with food and clothing
>> The victims has been provided with food and clothing

13.People speak E in almost every corner of the world
>> English were spoken in almost every corner of the world

14.You mustn't use this machine after 5.30 p.m
>> This machine have to used after 5.30pm

Có ai edit cho em không :((

choobi
12-06-2013, 01:35 PM
1.They can't make tea with cold water.
>> The tea can't be made with cold water

2.The chief engineer was instructing all the workers of the plant.
>> All the workers were being instructed of the plant
=> All the workers of the plant were being instructed

3.Somebody has taken away some of my books.
>> Some of my books has been taken away
=> Some of my books have been taken away

4.They will hold the meeting before May day
>> The meeting will be hold before May day

5.They have to repair the engine of the car
>> The engie of the car has been repaired
=> The engie of the car has to be repaired

6.The boys broke the windown and took away some pictures
>> The windown was broken and some pictures was took taken away

7.People spend a lot of money on advertising every year
>> A lot of money was spend is spent on advertising every year

8.They may use this room for the classroom
>> This room may be used for the classroom

9.The teacher is going to tell a story
>> ???
=> A story is going to be told

10.Mary is cutting the cake with a sharp knife
>> The cake is being cut with a sharp knife

11.The children looked at the woman with a red hat.
>> The woman was looked with a red hat

12.They have provided the victims with food and clothing
>> The victims has have been provided with food and clothing

13.People speak E in almost every corner of the world
>> English were was spoken in almost every corner of the world

14.You mustn't use this machine after 5.30 p.m
>> This machine have to mustn't be used after 5.30pm

Có ai edit cho em không :((
=> I'm sorry to tell that you made so many mistakes

formenguyen123
12-06-2013, 03:46 PM
Chúc mọi người một ngày tốt lành. Bay lên nào

bkphong
13-08-2013, 09:28 AM
khá phức tạp nhỉ

matf9999
13-08-2013, 01:40 PM
2.The chief engineer was instructing all the workers of the plant.
=> All the workers of the plant were being instructed by the chief engineer.

9.The teacher is going to tell a story
=> A story is going to be told by the teacher

10.Mary is cutting the cake with a sharp knife
>> The cake is being cut with a sharp knife by Mary

11.The children looked at the woman with a red hat.
>> The woman with a red hat was looked at by the children.

13. People speak E in almost every corner of the world
>> English is spoken in almost every corner of the world

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bkphong
15-08-2013, 03:19 PM
ui có lẽ ḿnh phải học hỏi nhiều về vấn đề này thôi

vuductrien
21-10-2013, 08:42 AM
câu này có thể chấp nhận được đó ,nói chung trong những câu ko rơ ràng về chủ ngữ th́ có thể đưa về ngôi thứ 3 số ít là hợp lí nhất.Tôi nghĩ câu này như thế là hợp lí rồi. Đây cũng là 1 thủ thuật nhỏ để mọi người đỡ lúng túng trong những câu viết lại
thân!!!;)
a thuwrghi dáp án xem thế nào ạ:52_002::52_002:

vuductrien
21-10-2013, 08:45 AM
làm như bạn là sai roài !! thử test lại xem ,Object chịu sự tác động của động từ là đâu? Hăy trả lời câu hỏi đó và làm lại câu này nha!!!
Khi làm bài về dạng này bạn hăy trả lời câu hỏi ở trên th́ ko bao giờ làm sai được
h́h́.
Chúc bạn thành công!!!
thân!!!!

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